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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 54 points 6 months ago (3 children)

You can see it is an American post because there is no option of "total ban"

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Because of muh right to form an armed militia and, should the shit actually hit the fan, hide in my cellar quivering like the fuckin coward I am

😂

[–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's wild how the right to form a well-regulated militia includes leaving semiautomatic handguns where children can get them, but what can you do?

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago

Dunno, shoot the kids to stop them taking the guns?

😂

More likely than them shooting "the bad guy with a gun" lol

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Praise the Founders for our glorious Constitution. I continually celebrate the fact that none of the morons who hate freedom have the ability to take our gun rights from us. Our gun rights will outlive you all, thanks to the strong protections the Supreme Court have bolstered that amendment with in the past 2 decades.

[–] sobriquet@aussie.zone -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What country has a “total” ban on firearms?

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Total ban for civilians within population centres, where there is nothing to shoot save people, is totally normal everywhere except Burgerland.

[–] sobriquet@aussie.zone 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

That is definitely not true. Even in Australia, which has some of the strictest gun laws, we don’t have a “total ban”. If you have a legitimate reason to have a firearm, you can get a license. And yes, legitimate reasons can include “guns are fun” - it just means that if that is your reason, the gun is only used at a gun club, and you can’t walk around the streets with it.

Edit: reading your other posts, it seems you mean “carried in population centres”. Stored and/or used in controlled environments within population centres, and even open carried by appropriately licences individuals (eg police) is still a far cry from a “total ban”.

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

The question was specific with regards to a "private city", thus you can infer from context that the totality of "total" is limited to cities. This is also the reason I abstracted and specified it to mean population centres, because bringing guns to festivals is just as stupid and illegal most places.

I get the urge to be pedantic, but why be so after someone else has already pointed it out and I have answered them?

[–] GbyBE@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I wouldn't go as far as saying a total van is totally normal everywhere else, because I don't know many countries with such a ban. I don't know many other countries with concealed or open carry laws, so that's certainly a difference.

Countries like Switzerland and Germany prove that private gun ownership can go hand in hand with regulation and enforcement, and not cause as many casualties as in the US.

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Sure, not total in the sense that gun ownership is illegal, but you if you take a fucking gun to a city you will have your license revoked and probably go to prison. That is unless the gun was kept locked down, dismantled and securely separate from the ammunition in your trunk.

The point is to remove guns from people and places where they can do the most harm, like in a population centre. They have no reason to be there, and most of the world recognizes this.

[–] GbyBE@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 6 months ago

Ah, if that's what you meant you're absolutely right. I think there's only one country in Europe where they have some (rather limited) form of carry by the public (Czech Republic if I'm not mistaken)

[–] sobriquet@aussie.zone 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This is a much more nuanced view than a “total ban” honytawk suggested. I completely agree this should be the norm.

[–] Peddlephile@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Japan has pretty strict gun control, don't they?

[–] GbyBE@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 6 months ago

Yes, and as far as I know so do the UK (even air rifles are rather restricted there) and Singapore. There will undoubtedly be others, but I'd be surprised if that's anywhere near a majority (if you consider strict gun laws to be the ones that make it very hard for people to legally own firearms).

[–] sobriquet@aussie.zone 1 points 6 months ago

There’s definitely many sane countries that have “strict” gun control. But that’s very different to a “total ban”.

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 45 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Love Washington crying over the beautiful sight!

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 3 points 6 months ago

Y-y-yeah that's it, t-t-that's why he's crying alright. I mean, ~~I'm~~ he's not crying, shut up! /s :-P

[–] Arfman@aussie.zone 37 points 6 months ago (4 children)

What the hell is a "private city"?

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Bioshock, but instead of getting problematic superpowers you just rent everything

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 months ago

Or maybe those corporate boroughs in Snow Crash.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

People are quoting sci-fi examples but they have been tried (and many failed) in the past. They are cities built, owned and operated by a corporation like Ford with Fordlandia in Brazil. Rent? Shops? All company-run.

Technically Disney has their own special district in Florida and have a lot of Government-like powers over it.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh so it’s a company town?

Round here we learned what do do to them. We fucking kill you if you try.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Good on you guys, corpofascist bullshit shouldn't be tolerated.

As for Disney and DeSantis fighting it out over each other's bullshit and the special district, "let them fight" comes to mind.

[–] Arfman@aussie.zone 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Do people live there on a permanent basis though or does it just run a commercial enterprise?

[–] ours@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Fordlandia failed but that was the idea: work, live, and spend your money there.

[–] halvar@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Fascinating. Sounds like a shit place to live and and an awesome place to visit.

[–] applewithacape@feddit.de 2 points 6 months ago

I think they already tore it down.

[–] halvar@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

Sadly it was torn down once it's enclave status ceased, but if you want to see how it could have looked like from the inside Stray has a very similar atmosphere.

[–] lucullus@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 6 months ago

Or something like Rapture XD

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 5 points 6 months ago
[–] Xantar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 6 months ago

What's the problem ? Everyone like a good bit of Roleplaying game, no ?

[–] specialdealer@lemm.ee 12 points 6 months ago

I’m pretty libertarian but I’ve also seen the spray paint section of Home Depot so no thanks

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Role Playing Games? 🤔 I'm confused.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Private city lol

Land of the freedom to be exploited, that's what it is

[–] CptInsane0@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

RPG's for free OUTSIDE every Walmart that have logic in them where they can only be pointed at Walmart

[–] Makeshift@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago

I read the answers before the question and thought “My local Walmart sells RPGs what’s the joke?”

… Thought it meant Role Playing Games. Not firearms.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 5 points 6 months ago

Depends whether those polled are managing it for perceived quality of life or for maximum lulz.

[–] sudo42@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

The US military, the largest “pro-gun” group in the world has lots of “private cities”. Wonder what their position on firearms in their “cities” is?

/s

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Say what you will there’d always be work for civil engineers

[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

Aha! Finally a post where I will be free to say that the USA is an underdeveloped country that is in great need of help since many decades. And for posting this comment I will not attract any attention from Three Letter "Intelligence" Agencies, right ? Right ? /s

[–] solarvector@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

Why is there an apostrophe after the "M"?

Is this a fedora tipping version of the US?

[–] Gallardo994@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

The city where noone is bitching at anyone tho

[–] ComradeR@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What does RPG stands for in this context?

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 5 points 6 months ago

Rocket propelled grenade