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[-] onion@feddit.de 44 points 2 months ago
[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 71 points 2 months ago
[-] CausticFlames@sopuli.xyz 54 points 2 months ago

Google having their own proprietary crap embedded in their version doesnt make AOSP not FOSS.

Thats the entirety of the basis for things like GrapheneOS, despite Google gobbling it up.

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 28 points 2 months ago

Not technically no, though neither does it fully embrace the spirit of FOSS either. Anyway I was explaining the appearance of those two being at odds with one another in the meme. Anyone who does not enjoy meme content can simply block this community and move on with the serious side of life.:-)

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[-] helpmyusernamewontfi@lemmy.today 22 points 2 months ago

yeah just like Chromium technically speaking

[-] Artyom@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

Android is FOSS, but is your phone FOSS?

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

i use a foss rom, so its software is.

[-] potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 months ago
[-] Getawombatupya@aussie.zone 10 points 2 months ago

Get a haircut, hippie.

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[-] flashgnash@lemm.ee 31 points 2 months ago

Do android stans exist? Had always thought android was the lesser of two evils for most people

[-] helpmyusernamewontfi@lemmy.today 34 points 2 months ago

its most definitely the lesser, but there are still many people who would suck off Samsung and Google if they had the opportunity to.

trust me I've met them

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 months ago

Just as some Linux enthusiasts would from Mr. Torvalds.

It's like with every other fandom: There are haters, normal folks, lovers and the pesky hyper-fan.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[-] idunnololz@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

What if I just like to suck.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago

The good thing is: You (still) have free will.

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[-] helpmyusernamewontfi@lemmy.today 5 points 2 months ago

Foss ftw baby

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[-] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 28 points 2 months ago

GrapheneOS FTW

[-] pedz@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 months ago

If I need to choose, I'll go with Android but to be quite frank, I would really prefer to have a "real" computer operating system on those devices. For 10+ years I've been waiting for a device that I can put in my pocket, use it on the go, with a data connection, and have the possibility to dock it and continue using it as a full fledged computer, with Linux if possible.

I know some high end Android devices can be "docked" and connected to a monitor, but they are far too expensive and/or too rare. Also, you still have to use apps instead of proper computer software. I don't like the "everything is an app" model, where they all have to have ads and/or paid versions. Android and "mobile" operating systems are a pain to use. I want to have control over my device.

And I also know there are some devices that can to this, but with the level of technology that we have, a device like this should be easy to find. Yet, it's all niche stuff that isn't really polished nor working really well. It's all damn phones and tablets with "mobile" operating systems that locks users. I wonder if phone/tablet manufacturers keep it that way because there's no demand for this, or if they simply want to continue the milking of the mobile users.

[-] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This! Mobile operating systems are trash, and there's no good reason for it. I always see people parroting the same nonsense, "you have the power of a super computer in your pocket". Okay, then why can't I use it like a supercomputer? It's all crippled toy versions of the desktop applications, social media garbage, or microtransaction stuffed toilet games.

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[-] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago

Absolutely this. I, too, go for android (pixel even, sigh) but would prefer a real os. android was aweful when it came out, grew much better, then declined again. And with each update they kill so many apps due to "security"-changes.

And what's worst of all, is the constant struggle to actually own your own device (=root). Noone would ever have bought a pc with no admin-pwd where you can only "refresh" your current windows-version and nothing more. You can't buy anything else than pixels (and even with those you need at least minimum tech-knowledge and are dependent on the continuing development of ONE app). Having any other brand makes it near impossible without luck, time and frustration-tolerance.

The coming generations will just pay 1000 for a phone they are allowed to use, not own, and think that is how it is and ever has been.

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[-] Juice@midwest.social 25 points 2 months ago

Graphene OS changed my life, seriously. Completely changed my relationship to my phone and made it possible to focus again. Go open source

[-] xthexder@l.sw0.com 9 points 2 months ago

What specific features did you notice the most? (I'm assuming switching from Android?) 90% of my phone usage is through a browser, so I could probably install Graphene pretty easily.

[-] Juice@midwest.social 10 points 2 months ago

#1 through #69: no push notifications, no feeds on my home screen, nothing I don't explicitly turn on and configure. No bloat whatsoever, the phone comes practically empty. I got this at the beginning of 2022, before then I kept finding myself reading articles about Johnny Depp and Amber Heard. Like I could not give less of a fuck about them, that story, whatever. I don't know who she is, and I don't particularly like JD movies except maybe Dead Man from the 90s, he probably beat the shit out of her idk. But for some reason I kept finding myself reading these articles on my phone absentmindedly. That kind of shit ended immediately.

Downsides? Not everything works, because there's no google play, and I couldn't get it even if I wanted it. I can use most google services on the browser, but for maps I have to use Osmand, which works but doesn't give me the fastest way to a place, and its kind of a trick to find a specific house or business without looking it up on a computer first and locating the nearest cross street. Schools, hospitals it has saved no problem, but not the optimal routes ore even anything relatively close. Great for my city where I can get myself 98% the way there already knowing the fastest ways around. Out of town we usually use my wife's navigation.

Those drawbacks are a little annoying but I will never go back to android, and I would never use apple in the first place. I love my phone, it feels like its mine in a way no phone ever has.

Hope this helps, ask if you have other questions

[-] xthexder@l.sw0.com 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Interesting. Not having a good maps / navigation app might be a bit of a dealbreaker for me, since that's pretty much the last 10% of what I use my phone for. Degoogling myself there will require some effort....

As for push notifications and feeds, I don't really have a problem with that on my current phone with base android. I'm pretty aggressive about blocking random notifications or uninstalling apps entirely if they show me push notifications ads or "use me" reminders. And my home screen is just a clock and calendar.

[-] k2helix@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

GrapheneOS lets you choose whether you want to have a sandboxed google play installation. This way apps such as Maps work. Basically you are in control (except for Google Pay).

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[-] vox@sopuli.xyz 23 points 2 months ago

android's at least open source

[-] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 months ago

The base of it is, but you're not buying a phone with a fully open source Android OS on it

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[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 17 points 2 months ago

"Google is insidious. They're really an advertising data-collection company, but people think they're a tech service company. Their whole strategy is to provide stuff like Chrome for free so that lots of people use it and it becomes a de facto standard, and then they flip a switch and quietly mine all of that data."

15 minutes later...

"Anyway, I prefer Android cuz it's FOSS."

[-] scoobford@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 months ago

People who prefer android because it's open source usually use open source android because that's what they want.

That being said, proprietary blobs and black boxes are a pox on basically every usable device these days. I hate it.

[-] antidote101@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Apple and Google are both part of the NSA's Prism data collection program.

[-] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I honestly haven’t seen an “Apple fanboy” IRL in like 10 years lol I feel like that romantic image ended some form ago.

Still, great meme and very true lol

[-] moon@lemmy.ml 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You still get a lot of the old 'android is for poor people' narrative. Age and sub-culture also play a part.

Drake, one of the most commercially successful musicians in the past 15 years, released a song where he says he wouldn't answer a call from a woman because she was calling him from an android.

That song came out just 6 months ago (Oct 2023) and was number one on the charts. A ton of young people will have heard that and been influenced on some level by it, so the Apple fanboy/android hater thing probably won't be going away any time soon

That's also Drake and nobody respects him.

[-] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 6 points 2 months ago

I want this to be true lol

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[-] helpmyusernamewontfi@lemmy.today 20 points 2 months ago

damn I wish I lived where you lived

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[-] DakRalter@thelemmy.club 10 points 2 months ago

I just had a colleague mock me (good naturedly) the other day for having an android phone. I just laughed and said, I'm no fan of Google but at least I can install what I want on here. That was the end of it, haha.

[-] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

Damn, in my school class... I thought we are all old enough but my class also consists of Narcisstic and Egocentric people.

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[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They pit us against each other in this arbitrary culture-war...the proprietary versus the open standards. And it's so wildly anti-consumer but we fall for it, year after year. Maybe one day Apple users will realize how anti-consumer it is, but I doubt it, they love the exclusivity of being half of the people with a smartpbone.

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[-] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

I had a lot of hope for Android in the early days before Google dropped the n't from their "Don't be evil" corporate slogan.

[-] InvaderDJ@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Use what you like. Just like Windows, macOS and Linux for the vast majority of people, all these OSes are, are platforms to display apps and webpages. They all have sanded off most of the rough edges meaning that unless you have specific niche needs/wants, you'll just use what is familar and be happy.

Life is too short to have deep feelings about an OS.

[-] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago
[-] Altomes@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

Lineage OS fan here. I'm in the clear

[-] toastal@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

This is the reason you shouldn’t choose a chat platform that requires the using the mobile OS duopoly—get your friends off of LINE, WhatsApp, & Signal.

[-] helpmyusernamewontfi@lemmy.today 17 points 2 months ago

while I agree, signal is also on Linux and is a more polished alternative

[-] Wilzax@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

But it does require a cell phone number to get started, meaning your signal account is tied to your identity via your phone carrier

[-] PolarisFx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago

There are many services that will give you a temp number to sign up with for these services. I have many verified discord accounts, none of which are my actual phone number.

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[-] wax@feddit.nu 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Got this update message in signal earlier this week. Nice to see them moving in the right direction, but I guess the initial signup still requires a phone number.

"Your phone number will no longer be visible to anyone on the latest version of Signal unless they have it saved in their phone's contacts. You can change this in Settings.

A new privacy setting lets you control who can find you by your phone number on Signal.

You can now set and share an optional username to let people chat with you without giving them your phone number. "

[-] Cultural_Hope@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago
[-] Simon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Lol I can't understand how you get so many upvotes but when I make a meme everybody's like "what's a stan???" Linux users are some of the most antisocial people on the planet.

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