I think after XMPP, Google Talk, Wave, Hangouts, Allo, etc... people should know better than to adopt a messaging service from Google.
Yes, I know RCS is theoretically an open standard, but if Google can keep me from using it, it effectively belongs to Google.
Seriously. How many more chat apps from Google do we need to learn the lesson?
Theoretically? RCS is not an open standard. It requires a license from GSMA.
XMPP is not from Google. They just successfully pulled an EEE.
You'd think people would know better than to adopt anything from google.
God, it's like they don't want RCS to succeed.
RCS is just stupid. When I was still building phones a decade ago we had some operators ask for it - but after reading the standards decided to just ignore it and hope it passes. Pretty much everybody did that, until google got interested - presumably because they figured it'd be a good way to get control of messaging on a lower level. As that's exactly what RCS is: control of messaging, and ideally the option to charge for it, just like SMS and MMS before that.
What's really bizarre is that Google had the chance to be a dominant player in messaging when they made Hangouts the default SMS client on Android. Instead, they backpedaled and let Hangouts wither into obscurity. I'm mostly glad they screwed that up, but also puzzled.
Hangouts was the best thing going for a while there. Of course they had to goog it up.
More like they need to have everyone use the app so that they can offer "AI Assistant" features through it.
With UI decisions like the shortcut bar, they really don't. I switched to another SMS app because I couldn't stand it.
Google are so needlessly hostile to people that root, what the fuck does sending messages have to do with having elevated permissions on a phone?!
The hostility towards custom ROM in general, is what forced me to root. Initially I used LineageOs without root. However, that got me in to issues with various apps, due to not passing safety net. So now I use magisk to hide that I use a custom ROM. So, they basically forced me to root.
Monopoly is the only thing companies strive for.
Google is probably trying to get around the cardinal rule of network security: you can't trust the client.
Their RCS client probably doesn't make sending a huge volume of messages (i.e. spam) easy, and more automation is possible with root. Yes, it's stupid, but it's not completely without purpose.
I knew it! I had the sneaking suspicion that this was the case. About a month ago I updated my phone to Android 14 (custom rom) and noticed I started having trouble with RCS after a couple days since the update. I knew I was going to lose the play integrity but whatever. RCS was nice but I will not bend... just pushing me a step further to de-googling my phone. Lol it's funny how they cry to Apple about supporting RCS but yet refuse to allow third party apps or phones that don't meet their requirements, pathetic. There should be an encrypted text communication standard that isn't controlled by one company who can lock you out because you don't have approved software, that is ridiculous. That being said, I wish Signal was still a SMS app.
There should be an encrypted text communication standard that isn’t controlled by one company who can lock you out because you don’t have approved software
XMPP + OMEMO
XMPP + OMEMO
also matrix
My 6a on GrapheneOS stopped working months ago and I've spent hours trying to figure out what I had changed in an attempt to fix it.
Google broke it at their end? For no reason but spite? What cunts.
Glad to see I'm not the only one! Same phone, same OS, same issue here too.
They are indeed some spiteful ass cunts.
Probably for "security reasons"
I've disabled it for now. Rooted phone is enormously more valuable to me than RCS that only half works right to begin with.
I was able to get RCS working again yesterday by updating to the latest version of Play Integrity Fix, but if that hadn't worked, I would have disabled it and then probably switched over to Textra or Yatta for texting since RCS is basically the only thing keeping me on messages for texting.
You can just install the PlayIntegrityFix module. It works again.
Google doing shit and it's fine to circumvent it.
Quite ironic given that they cried because Apple didn't adopt RCS on iOS, and now they make it less accessible themselves.
It's apparently the Google Messages app, not Android itself. Good to know.
it's the only OEM-independent, RCS-compatible app for now, so it's not like you can work around it by installing another client.
google gonna google.
remember when they used to have "don't be evil" in their company mission statement? i miss that google
Good thing nobody uses sms to chat here where I live....
The bad thing is that Whatsapp is the alternative.
So that's why I can't send RCS messages.
I think Magisk has a patch for this now.
Might as well double down and get luckypatcher again too lmao.
Google also won't roll out RCS to Google Voice. They're just as shit as everyone else.
Ay yo, wtf
what's the benefit of using RCS ? Is it the bubble colour BS?
Nobody who cares about RCS cares about the bubble color.
People who care about the bubble color are tech-illiterate Apple fanbois.
People who care about RCS care about being able to send high-resolution photos, group chats, and video calls with their tech-illiterate Apple fanboi friends and family in a default, common messaging app.
Also the non-fanboi Apple users, and the tech-literate Apple users, and the Android users. All in one default app and an open standard. Amazing.
E2EE, unlimited attachment sizes, rich formatting, read/delivered notifications, reactions, group chat, stickers, a third-party app integration, stuff I'm forgetting about, and all part of the standard Messaging app.
E2EE
But only through Google's RCS
read receipts, security and larger file sizes
No, iMessage is not compatible with RCS just yet. Messaging between an iPhone and Android is still SMS
I have a pixel, it defaults to RCS and those do not reliably deliver to my husband, who is on an android Samsung phone. I can't figure out what the big advantage of RCS is.
What is the benefit of RCS? Ever since it started using that system, I've constantly had to manually change over to SMS because RCS just stops functioning entirely causing messages sent by me to not be sent and messages sent to me don't get pushed to me until I turn RCS off. So from my perspective, RCS fuckin' sucks.
use any american service - have all bad time.
Custom Android versions are not ROMs, they are OSes
plural sucks though
And most flying things aren't drones, they are radio controlled models, but you try getting people to stop using that term.
Android/Custom ROM is the name for them, even if it doesn't mean what it should. It's not that far off as that partition is usually set as read-only, so it kinda is a ROM.
They are blocking all of mine because I'm not gonna use their shitty text app
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