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Lol, Linux literally owns the server space, windows owns the desktop space, what exactly does MacOS Own exactly? If best means most pretentious then sure.
I would argue macOS owns the creative space (Design, Art and Music)
I would concur. You can record high quality encoded audio on your iPhone, audio design on your iPad with your other samples, and add the mixed soundscape into your film on iMac.
I literally know someone in the media industry who's whole effortless workflow is what makes him a go-to guy for quick and flexible turnaround for audio mastery for films. He works exclusively on apple devices for this exact reason.
I'm not saying it's impossible another way, but he really likes the ecosystem.
I would entirely agree with this, having watch BBC, NatGeo, History Channel, and more media people who love GDrives, only use Macs, filmed deliverables on iPhone, want Mac Pros for editing etc.
At this point I'd call it more of a legacy approach - they definitely still control the space, but the workflow is quite easily accomplished on other systems.
I'd also add many (SO MANY) of the pro audio and video systems out there are also running Linux, so even with sa mac-focused workflow, many of the pros out there are using Linux (often without any clue that they are).
So to me its similar to Windows on the desktop - its not necessarily the best option in all cases, but its often the path of least resistance. As a result, pretty much all of them buy into an Apple ecosystem from the get-go.
15 years ago you would get laughed out of art school if you didn't have a Mac. At least that's the gist I get from my artistic friends.
Probably still the same today.
Doesn't change the reality of production though when it comes to audio and video though. Final Cut started getting... Problematic in flow some years back, Adobe started to make moves before they, you know, did what Adobe does, and BlackMagic bought DaVinci about 15 years ago actually.
At this point, the only places I know of that are using final cut or premiere in their workflow do so for legacy reasons. Many have shifted to resolve, which works quite beautifully on Linux. In the smaller shop realm for audio, reaper is king (which also works beautifully on Linux).
The "need" for a Mac there is pure fabrication.
For modeling, pros are probably using Houdini, though I'd say blender just behind that. Both of which - again, Linux.
About the only thing I can think of where pros are consistently using something not Linux friendly in the creative world is photo editing (Photoshop of course).
Now I will say that pretty much anything a pro shop will use will work on a Mac, and that is to me the main reason they are still at the top. Plus the weird Apple fanboy/elitism that developed around it.
Houdini is mostly used for simulations and procedural modeling. For manual modeling Z-Brush and Maya are still king, especially at the big game studios. Blender is mostly used by indies and students. You couldn’t buy support until recent years so big studios have steered away from using Blender.
There are some animation houses that use their own proprietary software on Linux. Like Pixar has Presto. Though Disney’s own studio uses Maya.
FWIW, Final Cut has gotten a lot better in the last few years. They have walked back pretty much everything from X at this point. I still have not switched back from Premiere and Resolve though. I don't trust them.
But like it or not, Macs are industry standard and people expect you to use them. Them's the breaks.
That is what a lot of folks are still saying (from my purely anecdotal experience).
I don't think macs are going away FWIW, just saying that its not at all necessary for the overwhelming majority of workflows I've come across. Especially with so many internal corp studios being happy with a blackmagic body in their kit.
That was partially because older PCs had rectangular pixels vs a Mac’s square pixels. Square pixels translated better to other mediums.
Edit: I just realized that was more like 25 years ago. God I’m old.
Only partially true. VFX for example uses Linux quite a bit, and a lot of web devs use Linux too, or even Windows with WSL.
But it would be a stretch to say that support is the result of current macOS. The Mac has always been popular with creatives, since way before it was UNIX-based.
I'd argue the popularity with creatives is largely from being marketed to creatives since its earliest days.
For sure the commenter was just asking what space MacOS owns
The lack of non proprietary art tools is a big reason I didn't go into digital art / graphic design. GIMP just cannot keep pace and I did not want to shell out $500 a year or more in subscriptions just to be able to do a job with no security that pays pennies.
Its also a big part of why I'm "pro" AI art (I'm actually pretty neutral, I'm not liking that they're burning down the Amazon to make shitty ads with). I think it's gonna be a decent tool for artists to automate repetitive tasks like cutting backgrounds out of photos for collages, upscaling / enlarging images, adding background textures to landscapes, touching up acne in portraits, and animating repetitive shots like walking. but right now we're unethically sourcing the training data and shoving it into anything and everything with 0 regard for how many resources it's costing to make content that's shitty anyway.
The other half of my argument "in favor" is that the only thing worse than AI existing is AI only existing in the hands of the bourgeoisie and is plebs not even knowing how it works in addition to them using it to gain an unfair advantage over us. I think we have an opportunity to make sure that the open source tools are decent to begin with instead of letting them have complete control over even more of the creative world.
Designer here. This is true, but they are also have a seriously good trackpad and good energy use (finally). They work well for design, video and audio, but they are also really nice to operate. It’s a bit like driving a very nice car (which I can’t afford, but have borrowed from a client). Once you get accustomed to it, every other computer—especially laptops—feel like 1980s GM econoboxes.
MacOS owns the rich space*
And a lot of rich people are art dilletants or are able to afford putting their children through expensive art programs with no need to have it pay off. And of course they all buy the "top of the line" (which of course is obviously the most expensive right?) brands.
Don't get me wrong, Apple plays into it so the cycle is recursive.
As someone in the video and audio production sphere professionally, you are 100% correct. I have a Mac desktop that I use for any work I do, but I run Mint on a notebook for my own purposes.
surprisingly many computational scientists use MacOS
Yeah, I have some anecdotal evidence to that as well.
Everyone likes to shit on AAPL for being a walled garden, but it's really hard for some to admit that they are pretty good at what they're doing.
I mean, they kind of have to be pretty good to entice you into the walled garden to begin with. Get people in the door with a smooth, super-polished experience, and then you've already got plenty of them pretty well won over. You'll lose some users with previous experience with another OS to "It doesn't work the way it did on $ancient_version of $OS, I hate it," that go back, some just get tired of the same thing and want to try something new, and others that hit the walls of the garden and decide they want out. If it was straight garbage and restrictive, on top of being expensive, nobody would hang around until they got comfortable enough that overcoming the friction of changing was a real obstacle to switching.
There's just a disproportionate representation of folks like myself in tech communities versus the general population who are opposed to any walled garden, no matter how polished, when there exist a free alternative.
Definitely not the server space. OSX Server flopped in the early 2000's. But you know, OSX is definitely "unix".
it's very popular with developers due to being a turnkey posix environment. given the choice between mac and windows for development, i would go with mac every time. it's not my personal first choice but it's tolerable.
It certainly isn't the enterprise space, ALL their business features and integrations are half-assed at best and downright painful to use at worst (ESPECIALLY iOS device management, fuck what a shit show that is)
I came up with the phrase "Windows is an enterprise OS with consumer features, MacOS is a consumer OS with (half-assed) enterprise features" to describe it perfectly.
Have you used windows lately? I swear it's become half-assed as an OS. Might still have the enterprise management features, but it's incredibly painful in a mixed enterprise environment that is not standardized office boxes. (e.g. science equipment). I avoid it like the plague if at all possible due to it's now quirky nature.
I'm dating myself, but at least NT didn't crash all the damn time when you access a share on a NetApp or install a new version of the evil Java... Etc.
As an enterprise admin, I concur.
Windows seems to be turning into some kind of weird botnet that exists only to waste wattage and bandwidth on updating itself and looking for security risks. I have weirdly fond memories of NT... but I don't miss updating JRE on 1k+ machines though...
And then those "enterprise features" get borked on the next major macOS release.
Oh you wanted to ensure your remote assist tool could be granted the proper permissions to work? Well screw you! We took away the ability to grant Screen Recording permissions through a MDM profile. Suck it!
In case you didn't know the Screen Recording permission is needed to be able to view the display/screen in applications like Zoom when screen sharing or for remote assist through Screen connect.
Apple's "reason" was essentially "... Think of the users! It's for their security".
I'm old enough to remember when people thought OSX Server was a competitive option because it was technically "unix". Needless to say, once people figured out Apple was using Linux for their own servers, despite numerous attempts to switch over to OSX Server. OSX Server went tits up. Apparently OSX Server hung around as an addon to OSX for casual use.
Linux owns more than server/web space. It's everywhere. A lot of IoT is Linux too. Also drones, router, switches, NASs, smart white goods, cars, etc, often have Linux in somewhere too. TVs were Linux, but are now Android, which is Linux but not GNU/Linux. Basically user facing Linux is often Android, though not the Steam Deck.
IoT is 80% Linux. Linux owns every space except Game Console and Desktop, at least that I can think of.
BSD and other permissively licenced code is used a load in games. PS4-PS5 are FreeBSD based I think. GCC is often the compiler used for these platforms. Though maybe Clang + LVM now. So loads of FOSS is used, but these is little community participation. That what non-copyleft allows. Maybe it's better now. I left games over 12 years ago now and not really following.
yeah, I've heard many times the Play Stations have use FreeBSD for a while now.
Space in your amygdala, apparently.
The "luxury" space. It's overpriced hardware with an honestly relatively pretty aesthetic and the OS has so many guardrails they're hard to really mess up, and when someone does mess it up, apple stores are ubiquitous enough that its a pretty quick trip to get it fixed. Perfect for people with a bit more money than sense who don't want to or have the time/ability to figure out how to properly use a more flexible OS that requires a bit more knowhow to use and not break.
Have you seen the M4 benchmarks?
If you're memory bound then sure, you can get way more bang for your buck with Intel/AMD. But for pretty amazing CPU performance I think the "Apple is overpriced" trope isn't really true any more.
It comes and goes... When the original MacBooks came out, especially with the Core 2 Duo, they were actually competitive with other manufacturers... Then the value started to lower until it wasn't competitive anymore.
MacOS owns the developer/sysadmin laptop market.
Linux is not UNIX