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[–] Rageagainstbelief@lemmy.world 88 points 1 month ago (6 children)

This has been solved they are both calzones. https://cuberule.com/

[–] FearfulSalad@ttrpg.network 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I find that system inconvenient, as it does not inform me of how I should eat any given item. Classification for the purpose of classification is insufficient. However, an alternative that allows me to prepare my ustensils based on the classification is useful, and therefore I propose...

Soup, salad, and sandwich are the three states of food, and they can go through phase transitions. They are closely accompanied by spoon, fork, and knife, respectively.

  • A soup is any food that requires a spoon, and thus includes soups, drinks, cereal with milk, etc. Tipping a container is merely the use of the container as a large and unwieldy spoon, a straw is similarly a spoon when its topology is combined with suction.

  • A salad then is anything bite sized that can be forked, and one's hands are little more than fleshy forks, the fingers prehensile tines. Popcorn, salads, cut up steak bites, a handful of cheerios, etc.

  • A sandwich is anything that requires it to be cut in order to be consumed, and one's incisors are merely built-in knives. A sandwich is thus the vast majority of the cube rule's content, and only because the cube rule focuses on the physical location of the starch. This is, of course, entirely irrelevant when it comes to the consumption of food.

  • To observe a phase transition, one can cut up a sandwich without consuming it, thereby turning it into a salad; can drown a salad to turn it into a soup; can freeze a soup to turn it into a sandwich, etc.

Shredded cheese is a salad.

[–] zod000@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

While I think your system allows for some really odd edge cases, I like the way you think.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

This thread makes me angry.

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mostly agree with these broad level classifications, except for sandwich. A sandwich refers to the construction (something sandwiched between something else) and also the intended method of consumption (no utensils and rarely a napkin). By your classification a 32oz steak is a sandwich, yet it must be consumed quite differently than an ice cream sandwich.

I'd change the sandwich category to be the chunk category, and have sandwiches as a subcategory of chunks and salads where the food comes surrounded by edible material that's easy to handle without utensils.

There's also the group of very thin soups that might deserve it's own group, but that might just be a qualitive difference.

[–] FearfulSalad@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 month ago

Completely agree, and will definitely make that change. As soon as Panera Bread starts selling Chunks.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don’t understand how pumpkin pie is toast, but cheesecake is a quiche. Shouldn’t they be the same whichever they are?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's hard to tell whether the difference is that the pumpkin pie crust is "slanted" while the cheesecake crust is vertical, or that the pumpkin pie is a single slice while a "quiche"-topology cheesecake is intended to be eaten whole.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So if I understand right, the cube rule is giving permission to eat a whole cheesecake, but not a whole pumpkin pie?

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 6 points 1 month ago

Yes, that is the brilliant simplicity of the cube rule.

[–] BlueLineBae@midwest.social 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't forget that sliced pie is a taco to add more confusion!!!!!!

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That was specifically a sliced pie with a top crust.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

…making a whole top-crust pie a calzone…

[–] peto@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I love that under this system the popular examples of type 4 'sushi' includes no sushi, unlike type 1. That and in the process of eating something can cause it to change type.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the process of eating something can cause it to change type.

Process of eating and perspective.

Beef Wellington:
To the chef: Calzone
To the diner: Sushi

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Tell this to Ramsey and see how he reacts.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's a good system, we should adopt it for all foods

[–] peto@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't think I would go that far. From a topographical point of view type 1, type 3 and type 5 are identical.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Omg, not the donut argument again... 🤣

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Sane, rational, and consistent. I love it. At the same time: this is absolutely going to start fights.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I love this so much.