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Now my arch is bloated more than the default ubuntu (lemmy.world)

submitted 4 months ago by Waffelson@lemmy.world to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world

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[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 45 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Every person who comments about “bloat” in their install should be required to preface their post or comment with a full definition of “bloat.”

This shit is obnoxious.

[–] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I actually wonder if we could ever agree on a definition?

Maybe:

Bloat: any unnecessary, superfluous software, software package, or feature that is unused or unnecessarily inefficient, and/or uses system resources to an unessasary or unreasonable degree.

What do you guys think? Because then we can still argue about bloat and what reasonable is! And that's what it's all about. Arguing for the sake of it!

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 12 points 4 months ago

Bloat is relative to every person / usage case but I agree with this definition.

[–] Agility0971@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I like this. Maybe it needs some words on bloatware that is enforced on users agains their interests?

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Anything that's not kernel

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, also not kernel modules. That counts as bloat.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

You're right. And how much of the kernel do we really need, anyway?

[–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

So GNU?

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Just the G actually

[–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But the G in GNU stands for GNU

[–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

reminds me of this totally valid URL:

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

I mean compared to things like Alpine which use musl and busybox you could consider it bloated yes.

[–] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Bloat = making your system usable

annoying people who whine about bloat

[–] Agility0971@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

installing more than base, linux, and linux-firmware is bloat.