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[–] ziggurism@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Modern conceptions of medieval warfare drastically overestimate the amount of usage that swords saw in battle. At least that’s a thing I’ve heard.

[–] s_s@lemm.ee 12 points 8 months ago

The sword was a sidearm. It was a trusty companion you had on you everyday to demonstrate your wealth and power and to be drawn in your defense if need be.

When it was time for battle, your sword would still be at your side, but in your hands would be some sort of polearm or perhaps an axe.

Also, commonly used but often forgotten about is a falchion. It was a sidearm that looked like a sword but did not require all the training in swordsmanship to be effective. Instead of being balanced like a sword to enhance the point control, a falchion was point heavy (like a machete) and swung like a hatchet.

[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I wouldn’t be surprised if technology was pushed towards ranged weapons like bows, crossbows, catapults, and trebuchets

I mean I’m sure there would be a good amount of swords or other close quarters melee units the keep the enemy at bay while everyone else is relatively safe from getting stabbed firing from a distance

I have no source just pure speculation

[–] Exusia@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

As far as my understanding, it was. Long bowmen were far more valuable because the costs associated with losing a knight was high. Infantry were given various polearms, and cavalry (or knights on horses) were given lances and spears. The kinetic energy from horseback functioned as good or better than trying to wind up swings of a weapon. Also human mobility is less than that of a horse before even accounting for armor, so being demounted from your horse mean almost certain death.

Swords were a last resort. A "running away is better" type of option. Being good with your sword is like being good with martial arts today - better to have it even if you may not use it.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

human mobility is less than that of a horse

[Citation needed]

[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wow that’s a much more detailed reply than my un-coffeed brain can produce lol

Maybe I missed it but for long bows you said they delivery a lot of energy especially so on horse back but I remember reading archers would train for their entire life just because of the sheer upper body strength needed for the bow which I think is neat

[–] Exusia@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

An archer can hit a man 450-1000 feet away. What's a man clad in 200lbs armor gonna do? All he can do is take it. So the armor was sloped and thickened. Relying on horse speed to make them harder to hit.

[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

I mean Ik I said they had lifelong training for that upper body strength but not 450-1k feet strength

This post is a great TIL :)

[–] CalamityBalls@kbin.social 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

For trebuchets at least, they were only siege weapons, took a long time to both assemble and fire. Though I must concede they were better than melee weapons for knocking down walls.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

In Monty Python and the Holy Grail, as the Frenchmen start raining animals at the knights and they all turn and run, Lancelot (being the brave one) takes one last whack at the stone castle wall with his sword before joining the rest in retreat. Always loved that little detail.

[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

Good to know. I just knew that they were just ranged so this is going into the “neat information that will in no way help me with my life” pile