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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by makeasnek@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml

Context: Chat Control 2.0: EU governments set to approve the end of private messaging and secure encryption

"By making a minor concession EU governments hope to find a majority next week to approve the controversial 'chat control' bill. According to the proposed child sexual abuse regulation (CSAR), providers of messengers, e-mail and chat services would be forced to automatically search all private messages and photos for suspicious content and report it to the EU. To find a majority for this unprecedented mass surveillance, the EU Council Presidency proposed Tuesday that the scanners would initially search for previously classified CSAM only, and even less reliable technology to classify unknown imagery or conversations would be reserved to a later stage. The proposed „deal“ will be discussed by ambassadors tomorrow and could be adopted by ministers next week."

Source: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/chat-control-2-0-eu-governments-set-to-approve-the-end-of-private-messaging-and-secure-encryption/

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[-] MentalEdge@ani.social 75 points 8 months ago

This is a level of bullshit that will straight up make me vote to leave the EU.

Outlawing E2EE should just not be a thing. It just shouldn't.

[-] sexy_peach@feddit.de 66 points 8 months ago

As if European state governments aren't also stupid and would come up with this idea.

The EU sucks sometimes but where ever you live in the EU your gov would totally come up with this on their own...

[-] MentalEdge@ani.social 19 points 8 months ago

Obviously. The point is that it's the kind of thing that will make me reject the very society I'm living in, and I would change it wholly to avoid this.

If the source was my own government, for the first time in my life, I'd be considering moving to a new country.

[-] Rivers@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

UK has been trying to push this for the last 2 years the moment we left the EU

[-] Dra@lemmy.zip 33 points 8 months ago

Well, this is being implemented in the UK separately so I wouldnt be too hasty

[-] ruination@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 8 months ago

Honestly, they could at least wait and see what happens in the UK before proposing something similar. They literally have a free guinea pig next door.

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 1 points 8 months ago

Not really surprising, though

[-] hoshikarakitaridia@sh.itjust.works 19 points 8 months ago

One could think you're proposing this as an alternate solution. It's not. And Brexit is the biggest proof.

That said implementing backdoors is so backwards it's creative in the worst way. You basically prepare the tools for a rogue government, rogue government employee, or a knowledgeable malicious actor to grab secure information from the silver plater. It's the dumbest shit.

[-] MentalEdge@ani.social 14 points 8 months ago

No shit. Only reason I bring it up is as a way to illustrate how badly I do not want this.

What a world we live in, when there's a possibility my use of a private matrix server between family, might become criminal.

[-] Ferk@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

There are plans for Matrix to move to P2P someday... I wonder what would happen in that case. Or if we just used https://tox.chat/

Would the regulation apply at all when it's just a protocol used between the users, with no intermediary or central server offering the service?

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