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[-] aeternum@kbin.social 106 points 10 months ago

i'd rather not use youtube than watch ads.

[-] eek2121@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

Thankfully that isn’t a choice you have to make, and thanks to open source, you will ever need to make.

The only trick Google has up their sleeve is their web integrity work. Even then, there will be workarounds.

[-] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 63 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm not sure if this works anymore but I saved this message a while back. If you get this pop-up then put this into your adblock custom rules and it should sort it out:

youtube.com##+js(set, yt.config_.openPopupConfig.supportedPopups.adBlockMessageViewModel, false)

youtube.com##+js(set, Object.prototype.adBlocksFound, 0)

youtube.com##+js(set, ytplayer.config.args.raw_player_response.adPlacements, [])

youtube.com##+js(set, Object.prototype.hasAllowedInstreamAd, true)

[-] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 6 points 10 months ago

You're an angel. This is for ublock origin?

[-] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 6 points 10 months ago

I believe it should work with any adblocker that lets you set custom rules but since adblocking still works for me I haven't tried this myself. Saved it from reddit like 3 months ago so I hope it's still relevant

[-] Konlanx@feddit.de 44 points 10 months ago

I have been adblocking on YouTube for as long as I remember. Personally I think it's unusable without an adblocker. What's the alternative? Because I am not suddenly going to pay for a platform that keeps getting worse all the time.

[-] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 16 points 10 months ago

When ever I see someone using YouTube without an adblocker it looks like some cheap chinese knock-off or something. As someone who sees less ads than 99% of people I've genuinely became a bit oversensitive to them. Podcasts are the only thing I keep paying attention to despite them having ads which even then I always skip over. Other than that every online platform I use is ad-free and I don't watch TV or listen to radio either.

[-] Konlanx@feddit.de 17 points 10 months ago

I like to listen to podcasts in the gym and I will interrupt my set to skip sponsors and ads. The enshittification on Spotify is particularly bad as they now play ads in addition to sponsorings for premium listeners.

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[-] dept@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 10 months ago

bilibili, an actual chinese knockoff has less ads

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[-] Synthead@lemmy.ml 38 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This message is displayed in the browser because Google asked your browser to do it, and your browser got the message and put it there.

When displaying ads, the end user experience is 100% client-side. You are using your screen and speakers to observe it. You can turn off your speakers and screen if you want, which will effectively "block" the ad.

But that is silly. Not only do you own your screen and speakers, but you have control of what you're browser is doing, too (if you use a respectable browser). When HTML, CSS, JavaScript, and other content is downloaded, just that happened: file downloads. After it has been downloaded, your browser then consumes it.

When it is consumed, a lot happens, but ultimately, the code in the browser displays content. Your (respectable) browser does all of this, and will change the look depending on local fonts, accessibility options, etc. With an ad block add-on, it will also remove these ads.

However, when ads are removed, the DOM is mutated with deleted or replaced content. It is possible for a website to then write ad block detection scripts to see if the ad contents have been removed or not. There are many ways to do this, and this screenshot is the result of one way of doing it.

However, enter the cat-and-mouse-chase of ad block block blocks. You can block your ads, then block the ad block block like this screenshot. These types of ad block rules are less common, but many public ones are available. Check the uBlock Origin lists in the setting page. By default, only about a third of the lists are enabled, and these extra blocks are in there.

Another avenue of determining that ads were not loaded is for the server to inspect if client-side (you) requests were made to fetch the ads. Even if this is in place, the server cannot determine if you have actually watched the ad or not. It could try to do more client-side attempts at validating that you somehow displayed it, but again, that's client-side.

Imagine if you were sent a letter and a pamphlet in the mail. Imagine if the letter said that you could mail them back for a free sample of their product, but only if you read the pamphlet. They would have to trust that you read it, because you are reading your mail in the privacy of your own home. However, you could opt to toss the pamphlet (like an ad blocker) and never read it. It's your mail, your home, and your choice.

[-] Maticzpl@programming.dev 15 points 10 months ago

Worst case scenario, they won't respond for requests for the actual content of the video untill the duration of the advert passes.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

The worst case scenario is that they only serve video to logged-in users, require accounts to be verified with government-issued ID, and enforce the whole thing with the web browser DRM they just proposed.

Make no mistake: this is a war on the public's property rights and their right not to have ads inflicted on them Clockwork Orange-style. It can get a lot worse than you think, and will unless we force the government to stop them legislatively.

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[-] Kuro@lemm.ee 32 points 10 months ago

It will be yet another endless cat and mouse game

There are smart people out there that will always find ways around this

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[-] jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works 29 points 10 months ago

Is "allowlist" the new word for whitelist?

[-] TheEntity@kbin.social 20 points 10 months ago

Not really new, it's been around for about a decade. Otherwise: yes.

[-] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 10 months ago

Some people mistakenly think that the “black” in “blacklist” is a reference to skin color, so they demand it to be changed.

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[-] Dmian@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

I don’t need no stinky ad blocker! With a custom user stylesheet is enough.., that is, if you’re using something other than Chrome, because Chrome removed user stylesheets for “reasons”.

[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Reasons of adware

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[-] Charliebeans@slrpnk.net 16 points 10 months ago

Seems like it's controlled test in different countries and segments. I (Europe) get this popup in Firefox, I also use pi-hole DNS and ublock origin.

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[-] hunt4peas@lemmy.ml 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Which adblocker are you using? I am using Ublock Origins, Sponsorblock, RYD and Enhancer for YouTube. I will check later if I get the same message or not.

[-] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 15 points 10 months ago

I'll fucking use Vimeo if I have to.

[-] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago

Id rather die than to use the internet without protective services.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 11 points 10 months ago

As long as we have the physical capability of pointing a camera at a display, people will control what they see. Worst case scenario in these browser wars, you run Chrome on a Google certified device then stream the output of that device to the computer you're actually using, using various filters and vision recognition removing the advertisement from your video stream.

This is extreme, it's a little crazy, but I think everyone can agree it's technically feasible. This means we will always have the edge in the browser wars. If we control the display, we control the flow.

Everything else is just an optimization

[-] penguin@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago

It's fundamentally impossible to grant read access without copy. And you can always do whatever you want to your copy.

Otherwise, piracy wouldn't be a thing.

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[-] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago

I ain’t doing all that for a video. Better option would be to ditch YT or get governments and regulators to step in and put a stop to this predator nonsense.

Sorry tech companies, you have no right to control such things. I’ll be damned if a company can tell me what application I can and cannot use. Let alone what browser I can ingest the internet with.

This is no different than the browser wars of 2000.

[-] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

What country are you in? I wonder if they're rolling it out to smaller markets to see how much backlash they get.

Time to get a federated video hosting service scaled up ASAP. But who could afford the bandwidth and storage? We need a stable torrent-based streaming solution I suppose.

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[-] AsRedAsMonkeysAss@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago
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[-] Anti_Weeb_Penguin@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

I never got this pop up (i use Firefox + Ublock)

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 8 points 10 months ago

It's not fully rolled out yet.

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[-] mbi@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago

Is this real? The post title seems to imply it's something that might happen in the future?

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[-] TCB13@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Have you notice that lately if you're the history feature disabled it will refuse to show suggested videos? In the past you would still get suggested videos even with the view history disabled.

[-] venoft@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

Same with google maps. With no 'web and search history' enabled the local searches I did on my local device won't be remembered. So every time you'd need to fill in the entire address. That's just bullying you into accepting their tracking.

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