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[–] Poggervania@kbin.social 216 points 10 months ago (6 children)

You stop seeding because you are selfish.

I stop seeding because I am selfish.

We are the same.

[–] nodsocket@lemmy.world 105 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I stop seeding because I work for the MPA and I have finished logging all the IP addresses. We are not the same.

[–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I stop seeding when I don't give AF, we're not the same.

[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I cap my seeding just low enough that it looks like I'm helping but I'm doingvfuck all, were not the same, I'm just a cunt.

[–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 19 points 10 months ago

I stop seeding when rutracker admin tells me to, we're not the same.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 9 points 10 months ago

🫡 more brave than the trops.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They say they use a modified torrent client which doesn't upload at all. I don't believe them though.

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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 115 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You can stop your mom from seeding on qbitorrent but I'm still gonna seed her.

[–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nice comeback, you wanna repeat that?

[–] shadearg@lemmy.world 70 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I believe what he said was

📢 He would like to bend your mom over and fuck up her ratio, Mr. Garrison.

Edit: Apologies if your ma is nice; them's the rules.

[–] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

... Fuck her UP the ratio? Hot!

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[–] snek@lemmy.world 99 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I was shocked to learn just the other day that my boyfriend is a dirty leecher

[–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 34 points 10 months ago
[–] Ataraxia@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's technically not illegal till you seed

[–] shea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

you're always sending and receiving data, that's why it's illegal the whole time. That's what the little tab that says "ratio" is measuring, the ratio of hownmuch your uploading vs downloading. Afaik it's pretty much impossible to use p2p file sharing without participating in spreading the files

[–] Senshi@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

There are many special versions of torrent tools that allow disabling uploading. If course you still have to upload your requests "please give me block 1234 of file XYZ", which some tools include in the transfer rate shown and others show separate as overhead or meta transfer rates. However, no actual file contents will be uploaded. This is important for some jurisdictions/nations. While both downloading and uploading content is illegal, uploading causes more "damage" ( it's legally easy to claim proliferation of the uploaded content, multiplying the financial damage). Also, in some countries, it's either but legal to track user downloads at all or not in a manner that would provide court-proof evidence. Proving illegal uploads is very easy: the legal company will simply use the p2p network itself, but record which blocks were received from what IP address at what time. This list in many countries is sufficient to get a court to order the ISPs to share info on who owned that IP address at that time, opening you up to a lawsuit.

Thus example is how it works in Germany and must other EU countries. The exact approach obviously differs, because everyone has variations of privacy laws. E.g. not every country makes isps store IP assignment history for longer than necessary for billing purposes ( usually a month), whereas in other countries isps hand out that info even without court orders...

Educate yourself and act smart. There is no magic protection when doing p2p piracy. Luckily, most companies do not care to pursue pirates. Others ( like kalypso media) are infamous for having partnered with legal companies whose sole purpose is to generate income by chasing pirates with intimidating and expensive "pay 800€ now or we sue you in court for millions" letters.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

It is 100% possible. Our school network at uni (including dorms) had a very strict no illegal seeding policy. It was possible to tweak uTorrent settings not to upload but if you messed it up, you were without internet for a day and there was a 3 strike policy.

[–] brokenlcd@feddit.it 79 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

My internet is 1.5MBytes per second download... And 200kbytes upload, there was a torrent that i was able to save from dying, i remember the poor mf that downloaded that file from me for a whole week; to download 16GB since then he's been seeding that file; the sheer tenacity that man had.

Edit:english is difficult

[–] VonReposti@feddit.dk 21 points 10 months ago

That poor MF have been me a couple of times. I hate being interested in niche content sometimes... On the positive side, I have a strict no-delete policy on any public torrent with less than 5 in ratio or private torrents, so I carry forward the gesture so the previous seeder can take a break.

[–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah, have done that a few times. Used to have a 20MBit/5MBit cable internet, it was hell to be honest. Still I've managed to seed well over 500 or 600GB a month on that thing (I never turned the PC off 😂). Now I got 50/50. I used to seed about 3 or 4TB a month, but I can't have my PC on like that any more, the electric bill was too high 😔.

Not only that, I have reconstructed dead torrents from files I've downloaded elsewhere (file sharing sites). If the files and filenames are the same, the hash will match, thus the client will start to seed it 😉.

[–] YoorWeb@lemmy.world 68 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I'm downloading various Linux distros just to seed them.

[–] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago

Please stop! My penis can only become so erect!

[–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

Tell that to the MPA 😂.

[–] yamapikariya@lemmyfi.com 65 points 10 months ago (4 children)
[–] JDubbleu@programming.dev 48 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

Myself and one other person have been upholding a torrent of the movie Holes since last June. My ratio is over 30, and I can only imagine how large theirs is since they were the only seeder when I downloaded the movie. I've cleared out some older torrents since then, but I'll be damned if Holes ever comes off my home server at this point.

Edit: The torrent for those who asked

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:d1a56cca797ae722d5562412766a1f1f74638f7d&dn=www.Torrenting.com%20%20%20-%20%20%20%20Holes.2003.1080p.BluRay.x265&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.vanitycore.co%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fopentracker.xyz%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.swateam.org.uk%3A2710%2Fannounce&tr=wss%3A%2F%2Fltrackr.iamhansen.xyz%3A443%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftorrent.nwps.ws%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftracker.tfile.me%3A80%2Fannounce.php&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexplodie.org%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fretracker.telecom.by%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ft.nyaatracker.com%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fopen.acgtracker.com%3A1096%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftracker.torrentyorg.pl%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=https%3A%2F%2Fopentracker.xyz%3A443%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.kamigami.org%3A2710%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker1.itzmx.com%3A8080%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.internetwarriors.net%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.iamhansen.xyz%3A2000%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.justseed.it%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fthetracker.org%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fretracker.mgts.by%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fretracker.lanta-net.ru%3A2710%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftracker1.itzmx.com%3A8080%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fipv4.tracker.harry.lu%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fdenis.stalker.upeer.me%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=wss%3A%2F%2Ftracker.btorrent.xyz%3A443%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftracker.tfile.co%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fpeersteers.org%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.port443.xyz%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftracker.internetwarriors.net%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F9.rarbg.to%3A2710%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fzephir.monocul.us%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftracker.vanitycore.co%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fpackages.crunchbangplusplus.org%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fopen.trackerlist.xyz%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fpubt.in%3A2710%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.si%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker2.itzmx.com%3A6961%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.ds.is%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftracker2.itzmx.com%3A6961%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fopen.acgnxtracker.com%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftracker.city9x.com%3A2710%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftracker4.itzmx.com%3A2710%2Fannounce&tr=wss%3A%2F%2Ftracker.fastcast.nz%3A443%2Fannounce&tr=wss%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openwebtorrent.com%3A443%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftracker.tfile.me%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.toss.li%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=https%3A%2F%2Ftracker.fastdownload.xyz%3A443%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ffxtt.ru%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fexplodie.org%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftracker.port443.xyz%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=https%3A%2F%2F1337.abcvg.info%3A443%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftracker3.itzmx.com%3A6961%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.bittor.pw%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fbt.xxx-tracker.com%3A2710%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fpublic.popcorn-tracker.org%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Feddie4.nl%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.torrent.eu.org%3A451%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fp4p.arenabg.com%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.tiny-vps.com%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.stealth.si%3A80%2Fannounce
[–] misophist@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My seeding rules are simple. If it comes from one of my private trackers or it contains Shia LaBeouf, I seed it forever. Everything else is auto-removed from my client when ratio reaches 2.0.

[–] Klystron@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Can I ask what client you use? I want to implement the same auto-remove on qbittorent but idk if I'm just not seeing that setting or what.

[–] misophist@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I use transmission, but share ratios are pretty common and I'm almost positive qBittorrent had the same options when I last used that one several years ago.

Look in your settings for "Set share limit to" "ratio: x.xx"

You can set a global share limit in your settings, and you can modify the setting for specific torrents when you add them or any time by digging into the torrent's properties.

My defaults are to seed to 2.0 ratio, and when I queue something up manually from one of my private trackers, I manually change the setting for that specific torrent to permaseed.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What VPN do you use? I used Mulvad in the past but I've read they stopped port forwarding so torrenting is broken with them now.

[–] misophist@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I use Private Internet Access (PIA). I'm honestly not sure where it rates on the "good vpns" scale, but I get port forwarding through open VPN on Linux and my connection is still pretty fast. It does what I need it to do.

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[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

My "one" is an 18gb folder of every episode of Fred Dibnah

Rescued it from a dying torrent and have been seeding for a decade. Ratio is about 100/1

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago

W + ratio + yo ho ho + 🏴‍☠️

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[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 60 points 10 months ago (3 children)

You're guaranteed to leave people unsatisfied if you stop immediately upon arriving at the seeding stage.

[–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 18 points 10 months ago (3 children)

people unsatisfied

This describes me seeing my Astro Boy 2003 English dub torrent 99.98% complete a few weeks ago.n

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[–] Aux@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Large popular trackers use seed boxes to provide torrents, your seeding is irrelevant. It is actually quite hard to get any ratio there as most people will get most data from the seed boxes.

But what's even better is to use a popular seed box yourself. There are high chances that a popular torrent will simply be linked to your seed box account instantly, so you don't have to download anything at all. I mean you still need to transfer it to your PC, but you don't have to torrent anything.

[–] na_th_an@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Yeah I don't bother seeding things that are widely available. My connection isn't good enough. I seed things that I have personal interest in with very few other seeders. Obscure media, software, and ebooks mostly.

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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Just gotta say I love your username

[–] Pothetato@lemmy.world 52 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But if I don't stop seeding I get the threatening emails

[–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Block email dolain, peoblem solved 👍.

[–] Pothetato@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

No prob 👍.

[–] regbin_@lemmy.world 48 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Don't talk to me if your average ratio is less than 1.0.

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[–] FatTony@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

How is this a Chad move???

Edit: Wait, maybe this is to reflect on the fact that physical beauty can harbour its ugly side, all the same. That we should not go about: "I am the handsome character and you are the ugly character, so I am right." Yes, after much consideration I have concluded that this meme should remain as is.

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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I seed until 1.0, but no more. Or as much required by the private tracker I'm a member of, or more if I seem to gain a lot of ratio. Am I bad?

[–] BluesF@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I seed way beyond the requirements, I'm totally happy for other people not to. I have a swanky setup that suits it - might as well. If you don't, don't.

[–] ignotum@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago (4 children)

A buddy was living with me for like two years or so, we had a lot of network issues, suddenly slowing down, not having nearly the speed we were supposed to,

Not long before he moved out i saw his torrent stats, while staying with me he had downloaded about 100GB, and seeded around 700TB!

This son of a gun had disabled any rate limit and been seeding at full capacity for two goddamn years, i haven't had any network issues since

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

And this is why I have my own router. Fuck the shitty router that the ISP sends you. I can see exactly how much traffic each device is creating, and throttle devices if needed. If I wanted to enable snooping, I could even see which specific services/apps/etc are creating the traffic. So like I’d be able to see a big spike in torrenting traffic.

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

Darn leechers

[–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm the only one seeding Poker Night 2 and I'm never going to stop! That game needs to be treasured and preserved. I can't let it be lost to time

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