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[-] RobotToaster@infosec.pub 108 points 10 months ago

About damn time, they should never have disabled it in the first place.

[-] happyhippo@feddit.it 62 points 10 months ago

Let's just appreciate the fact that basically no other browser has this.

With chrome/ium you can't even block ads.

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[-] sunflower_scribe@beehaw.org 64 points 10 months ago

Now, if only iOS would allow true Safari alternatives. 🥲

[-] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 71 points 10 months ago

They'll soon be forced to allow sideloading, in the EU at least. Should open the doors for proper alternative browsers.

[-] TheEntity@kbin.social 65 points 10 months ago

I loathe the very fact they made people call it "sideloading". It's just installing on your own terms, like it used to be the norm.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 19 points 10 months ago

Well, it's a carry over from its early days in how it used to work. You needed to install things via USB debugger. Generally that's all sideloading ever meant, transferring information from one device to another using a generally "local" method (SD card, USB, etc). Now sideloading, on Android at least (as it retains its original meaning elsewhere), just means not from the official repository.

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 9 points 10 months ago

I just activated Windows 10 on a laptop I bought from ebay, and I was reminded that Microsoft too wants people to view its official store as the default way to obtain software.

One of my goals for this weekend is to set up a dual boot for Linux Mint, which I've never done before. I'm fully aware of its limitations, but I'm getting so tired of all this crap.

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[-] GenEcon@lemm.ee 52 points 10 months ago

I use FF on android for a couple months now. Solid browser and sync to desktol and add blocker are nice.

BUT: their page reloading is far too aggressive. You can't buy anything online, since once 2FA is required and you need to open your bank app, confirm, and switch back, the page reloads and the 2FA didn't get through. Tickets and such are the only reason I have still chrome installed.

[-] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 74 points 10 months ago

This is Android aggressively killing apps, not Firefox.

[-] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 8 points 10 months ago

Possibly, but previously I've been able to load a site, open a media-rich page in a new tab, then close that tab to go back to the original page.

On a newer build of FF for Android, that first page is re-loaded from the internet.

[-] dsmk@lemmy.zip 44 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Hmm, I'm not experiencing that. Could Android (well, the flavour used by your phone) be killing background apps too aggressively or something like that?

Edit: could also be a RAM thing. I have 12GB.

[-] middlemuddle@beehaw.org 10 points 10 months ago

I'm not experiencing that issue either and I have half the amount of RAM that you do. I've noticed an unnecessary autorefresh only after closing out of the browser for a long time, never in the middle of switching between apps. But, that does sound like annoying behavior.

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[-] radix@lemm.ee 19 points 10 months ago

This annoyed me too. I use Firefox Nightly with accessibility.blockautorefresh set in about:config, and it helps.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1204335

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[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 10 months ago

why it was restricted in the first place?

[-] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 41 points 10 months ago

Because there were enough incompatibilities to make it a hassle. But when they were sorting out the Web Manifest v3, they designed it with desktop and mobile in mind, so new extensions won't have problems.

[-] bankimu@lemm.ee 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It makes less sense since extensions actually ran on Android, e.g. via Nightly and creating your own list of exceptions. Also if you downgrade and install in an old Fennec version, extension will continue to function if you then update to the latest.

I think the move was an attempt to create a walled garden. But for whatever reason, they have now decided against it. Thank goodness.

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[-] ItsTom87@kbin.social 29 points 10 months ago

Maybe they couldn't guarantee that the mobile version could run well with all of them? That's what I've always assumed.

[-] GunnarRunnar@kbin.social 13 points 10 months ago

Which I think is kinda weird decision since they could've just hidden a setting that unlocks all addons in the options. But maybe they were so incompatible at the time that it wasn't worth the headache.

[-] frogfruit@discuss.online 11 points 10 months ago

If you use Beta or Nightly, you can turn on dev tools and use a custom addon list from a collection in your user account. https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2020/09/29/expanded-extension-support-in-firefox-for-android-nightly/

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[-] comradegreetingcard@lemmy.ml 34 points 10 months ago

Can we have tabs when using a tablet please?

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[-] twistedtxb@lemmy.ca 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

For those who don't know yet: Firefox Nightly for Android let you install any extension you desire.

You just need to create a custom collection on the web site and link your ID in nightly.

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[-] bankimu@lemm.ee 26 points 10 months ago

My goodness that's awesome. I never understood why they locked it down in the first place about a year ago. What changed?

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[-] suny@beehaw.org 23 points 10 months ago

great, now waiting for them to finally fix the supremely janky tab behavior.

[-] gabriele97@lemmy.g97.top 22 points 10 months ago

Nice. What I need now is the ability to group tabs together

[-] berg@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago

Have you tried sidebery? When I found tree layout for tabs to be a thing I haven't looked back.

[-] gabriele97@lemmy.g97.top 10 points 10 months ago

Thank you! I am going to install it right now on my desktop PC. I was referring to the android version btw 😂

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[-] MoodyRaincloud@feddit.nl 21 points 10 months ago

Permission to shout hurrah in an annoyingly loud voice sir!

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[-] 9up999@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 months ago

Installed firefox yesterday. Nothing really changed or improved. Uninstalled firefox.

[-] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 45 points 10 months ago

It's 3 clicks to install AdBlock on Firefox mobile and that alone instantly makes it superior to Chrome.

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 25 points 10 months ago

Ublock origin is better I believe.

[-] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 8 points 10 months ago

Ublock origin is actually #1 on top of the list and the one I have installed, I was using "adblock" as a generic term.

As far as I can tell, chrome mobile does not support ublock origin like firefox mobile does.

[-] randint@lemm.ee 33 points 10 months ago

What is the main reason you (presumably) use Chrome over Firefox? People here might be able to help you solve the problem.

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[-] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 27 points 10 months ago

Literally was just telling my partner how much better browsing is since switching to Firefox on android. The ability to install extensions period is a huge upgrade, but also there are several available that are fantastic and not features available on chrome. Not sure what you mean about needing extensions to match chrome features. In fact, none of the extensions I've installed are features present in chrome. Plus I can block ads and trackers, activate dark mode everywhere, and use YouTube for audio with my screen off. I am kicking myself for being lazy. On top of giving Google personal data for no reason, I've had a worse browsing experience for years.

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[-] ExLisper@linux.community 17 points 10 months ago

It's funny how some people are willing to use weird android mods that can't run half of the apps to protect their privacy while others can't even wait 0.01s longer for a page to load.

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[-] nx2@feddit.de 11 points 10 months ago
[-] LaggyKar@programming.dev 9 points 10 months ago

It's about damn time

[-] transistor@lemdro.id 8 points 10 months ago

This is great.

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