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[-] mhague@lemmy.world 86 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I don't remember people ever writing cursive like what I was taught growing up. People just self-servingly turbo-scribble some chicken-scratch and call it a day. The kid who can't read our B-movie elvish script isn't the one with literacy issues.

We either write within the ballpark of standardization, or we don't. I think kids should be required to put in as much effort into learning cursive, as people put into actually writing cursive. Which is to say, absolutely none at all.

(Sorry to people who actually write legible, clean cursive. I wish I got to read your output in the wild.)

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 25 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The thing is, it's easy to read good cursive. It's just another script. It took me 5 episodes of Last Exile to memorize the Greek equivalents to English letters so I could read all the text without looking up the translation guide. But when their writing looks like Jack Lew's signature, there's not a whole lot I can do to decipher it

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 62 points 7 months ago

It's not that I never learned how to read cursive; it's that nobody actually writes it legibly.

[-] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 60 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Conservatives are trying to prevent kids from learning history and sex ed, and we're still hearing this bullshit lamentation about CURSIVE?

Schools are underfunded, teachers are underpaid and overworked, students are graduating barely able to read and with no critical thinking skills.

Who in their right mind is actually concerned about kids learning cursive?

Things I'd rather schools focus on:

Typing, Personal finance, Current events, Technology literacy, Graphic design, Human Computer Interaction

Or maybe practical skills related to trades or how to fix things: CAD, Cooking, Electrical, Plumbing

Literally ANYTHING but this cursive crap. It's useless, it's dead, move on.

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 27 points 7 months ago

To be fair, it's trivially easy to learn cursive and it's basically always been an extension of penmanship.

[-] nxdefiant@startrek.website 17 points 7 months ago

I've never been in a situation where penmanship mattered. Typing skills on the other hand are abysmal across the board and hamper my coworkers constantly.

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[-] yamanii@lemmy.world 34 points 7 months ago

This is so puzzling to me, here in Brazil everyone writes in cursive, we all learned fine as children, it exists because it's easier and faster to write with it and you are going to write a lot during all your school life.

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[-] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 34 points 7 months ago

Not being able to write cursive I understand.

Not being able to read cursive is an issue that will out your lesser education and put you at a disadvantage in social situations.

[-] Wrench@lemmy.world 48 points 7 months ago

How many social situations do you get into where cursive is relevant? Wedding table cards? Pretty sure even people not taught cursive can get the gist since most letters are pretty close to print.

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[-] Fallenwout@lemmy.world 33 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Can someone explain why one cannot read cursive? It is just a tilted (sometimes fancy) font, what's so hard about it?

Edit: After being made aware by a fellow lemmy'er and googling it, it seems I confused cursive with italics, English is not my first language. Though I learned cursive at school when I was 6 without realizing it is called cursive in English. It was part of the basic curriculum at that time, didn't know this wasn't a thing in other countries.

[-] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

There are some wonky letters, like capital G, S where if you never learned you wouldn't know what you're looking at.

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[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 32 points 7 months ago

It isn't just cursive. I've seen a lot of younger people have issues reading bad copies of older print letters. Part of it isn't being used to seeing information presented in a certain way or not being found via OCR.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago

Fuck cursive. Being forced to write in that was absolute torture. The forced use of specific esoteric hand-cramping illegible scribbles is asinine.

There surely was a use for penmanship before the proliferation of ballpoint pens and typewriters, but the way it was taught while I was in school was completely backwards. The intent of writing in script is to quickly flow from one letter to another without needing to lift the nib of a quill; rote learning of individual hieroglyphs with full disregard for the writer's natural hand movements is at best asinine, and at worst cruel.

The fact that we were tormented decades in the past doesn't justify more torment now. Be better.

[-] Deuces@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I find cursive is very useful when writing notes that only I will ever need to read. Reading and writing another persons cursive has never been easy for me and it has never impacted my life with one exception. I cannot read post cards from my aunt. Oh, and that time a decade ago when I had to fill out the "I will not cheat" pledge on the back of the SAT.

Turns out if you need to write something with speed we have these things that are like typewriters, but they don't even jam!

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[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 24 points 7 months ago

Cursive is dumb anyways. Let's have a second way to write that's harder To do, less legible, and designed for old school fountain pens no one uses that have difficulty with upstrokes

[-] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 30 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Let's all go back to learning shorthand!

This is what my arthritic handwriting looks like anyway...

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago

Shorthand is pretty badass. My mother knows how to read and write it, and I envy the speed at which she can take notes. A bonus for her was that she could write stuff down when we were kids and nobody could read it.

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[-] lunarul@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago

Harder to do? The whole point of cursive is for easier writing. Writing print by hand is what makes no sense. It's more legible, but print is called print for a reason.

On the other hand, there doesn't seem to be a standard for cursive in the US. When I learned to write in 1st grade in my country, there was an official cursive alphabet and everybody learned the same one. But my daughter started learning cursive now in the US (3rd grade) and because the letters she's learning are very different from the ones I learned, I looked up what American cursive looks like. Every single source I found on the subject had a different alphabet.

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[-] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 21 points 7 months ago

I thought cursive was the American word for joined up handwriting, but reading this thread I don't really get what it means.

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[-] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The only times I used cursive was to sign my name on important documents. Now I don't even do that anymore. I just write my name with normal letters without lifting the pen.

[-] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 35 points 7 months ago

My signature is anything from a sine to cosine wave. Doesn't matter as long as it's sined.

[-] not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

It's just a phase you're going through.

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[-] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 20 points 7 months ago

In this thread:

Americans: Why do I need to learn it when I can just type?

The World: It's literally just writing. You don't want to learn how to write??

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 39 points 7 months ago

My kids are learning cursive and I'm glad they are doing so.

But one of the main point of cursive was to be able to write more quickly, and typing has absolutely replaced that need, many times over. And also you learn print first, so not learning how to write cursive doesnt mean you don't learn to write.

Ironically, your post is supposed to be insulting Americans for not being smart, but God damn is the point fucking stupid and ignorant.

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[-] Sawy@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

I write exclusively in cursive. It's natural for me and everyone around me was taught it as well.

[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago
[-] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 14 points 7 months ago

I hate "formal" cursive, but the concept is solid -- economy of motion, or time, or whatever. In fact, I've realized that some of my printing looks like cursive if I write quickly. Cursive that just looks pretty can go fuck itself.

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[-] CompN12@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 16 points 7 months ago

For me I was taught cursive in elementary school, but it felt like I couldn't keep up writing assignments so i just stuck with printing which evolved to chicken scratch notes.

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[-] pseudo@jlai.lu 15 points 7 months ago

I don't get it. Are children in north-america taught writing with block letters ? What do your writing copybooks look like ?

[-] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 7 months ago

Yes. We are taught to "Print" first, and then taught cursive but reassured its not that serious or important to know how, because we will be expected to write in print on everything academic.

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[-] chakan2@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

Meh...cursive shouldn't be a compulsory lesson. It should be part of art or advanced lit. It just not a necessary skill these days.

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[-] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

The only time I ever use cursive is when I write my signature, and it's mostly just loops and squiggles.

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