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Launching a game means that the entire Steam Window fades and it will become entirely unusable until the game starts. That is not a separate startup window, thats just an embedded element inside the main one. If you accidentally click outside, the game startup gets canceled.

It is a bit more than mildly frustrating when Im waiting on the Vulkan shaders for BFV for like half an hour to process.

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[-] Wyrryel@pawb.social 43 points 11 months ago

Have you checked "Process vulkan shaders in the background" under settings -> download? That way it does that in the background when you're not playing

[-] fubbernuckin@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

WHAT? THERE WAS AN OPTION TO TURN THIS OF THE ENTIRE TIME AND IT WASN'T ON BY DEFAULT??

[-] Wyrryel@pawb.social 12 points 11 months ago

Yeah, but I don't know if it should be turned on by default. Shader processing takes a lot of CPU resources, even on a high-end one I notice some small stutters in general desktop usage while it processes. Lower grade CPUs could be pretty unusable, I think.

[-] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 6 points 11 months ago

I have a 5950x. At least on Linux I had to turn it off because it would peg my CPU at 100% all cores and the stutter was ridiculous. Heaven forbid I be writing code at the time.

[-] Wyrryel@pawb.social 4 points 11 months ago

Yeah, I gad a lot of problems with it on NixOS.l, to the point of kde becoming unresponsive during shader processing. I had a much better experience once I installed cfs zen tweaks which iptimizes the ketnel a bit for desktop usage.

[-] fubbernuckin@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Hmm, that's true. I guess i really just want the steam disabler box to be off by default.

[-] Bondrewd@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Hmm I didnt know about that. I will look that up next time.

[-] Pika@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

the new steam sucks hardcore. I hate everything to do with it. It's buggy, it lags, you can't use themes, it crashes randomly, it memory leaks. Heck it was suck bad performance that they pushed the beta back multiple times before finally releasing it and its still not ready.

[-] LouNeko@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Let's not forget that pressing the back arrow button on the workshop kicks you back to the main workshop page, resetting all your filters, searches or visited pages. Its absolute ass.

[-] Jawsome@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Is there a way for it to start minimized when you log into Windows yet? My biggest gripe.

[-] Pika@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I'm not sure how I did it but, my steam opens in windowed mode, It might be grandfathered from the previous UI though cause I don't see where I could have set that up.

[-] cevn@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

God the Vulkan Shaders processing is infuriating for Rocket League.. it takes like 3 minutes to get to 90% and then 30 minutes for the last 10%... then you have to do it all over again next time!!! WTF??

[-] tdawg@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

How new is this? I didn't seem to have this issue just the other day

[-] YMS@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago

This only affects a fraction of games (those that have to process their shaders), and then only on first startup.

[-] tdawg@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Gotcha, thank you for explaining

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Sounds like somebody needs an SSD

[-] klisurovi4@midwest.social 43 points 11 months ago

"Upgrade your pc, lol" should not be a solution to a problem that a company randomly created for no real reason. What OP is doing is right, bitch about it and hopefully Valve will notice and fix it, as they should.

[-] Primarily0617@kbin.social 18 points 11 months ago

shader processing isn't bottlenecked by read speed

[-] Bondrewd@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I got a setup that maxes out BFV bro. Proton will need to process your shaders every update or so.

If I do have a bottleneck, its my chinese Mobo with a xeon e5-2640 v3. Still, it has DDR4 and M2 SSD, so the bottleneck is usually core speed.

[-] berkeleyblue@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I use steam very irregularly and only for a couple small games. Is this something a lot of people do? Never occurred to me.

[-] rifugee@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

It's by far the most popular PC game distribution in the world. Yes, people launch games and then browse while waiting.

[-] ShustOne@lemmy.one 1 points 11 months ago

I'm curious how many steam users actually browse while waiting for a game to launch. I know they have a lot of users but I can't imagine more than one or two percent actually do this.

[-] berkeleyblue@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That’s actually what I meant… I‘m certainly aware how large steam is…

[-] Sonicdemon86@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I have an m2drive I've never had to wait. Upgrade your storage, then no waiting. Even when I had a hdd I never waited. So this would have been a surprise to me.

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Steam has 120 million active users a month and 60m a day, so yes it’s something a lot of people do.

[-] WiildFiire@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Why would you need to browse steam while you're launching a game? Is your object permanace so fucked that you can't wait for shaders to compile?

[-] _hovi_@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Compiling shaders can take a long time for some games though, MCC took about 15 minutes for me. No reason to unnecessarily lock the UI from UX perspective anyways imo

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