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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Stamets@lemmy.world to c/rpgmemes@ttrpg.network
 

I gotta say... the bunch of you whining about this fake are infinitely more annoying than it ever could be by being fake.

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[–] treesquid@lemmy.world 94 points 1 year ago (5 children)

A dagger does d4 damage. A dagger is not a small knife, it's like 8 inches of blade. Compared to that, a human bite should be like a d2 on the high side.

[–] topinambour_rex@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The stronger muscles of a human body is the one of their jaw. A bite can do serious damage. And when you dagger will cut or stab, your bite will ripe away skin and flesh.

[–] JoshuaSlowpoke777@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plus, human bites can carry a lot of bacteria and whatnot, so arguably some of that damage should be poison or necrosis damage.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, like a week later...

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago

You sound like someone who hasn't been bit.

[–] Khrux@ttrpg.network 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Honestly it's all an abstraction anyway but I absolutely would not bring my chompers to a knife fight.

[–] Waffles@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That's more about range though, isn't it?

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[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The thing with human mouths, though, is that they're gross. A dagger will fuck you up, but a mouth may hurt at the time, and then later it's ✨BACTERIA TIME✨. I think maybe they can get a little bonus for that.

[–] BeanGoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago

+1 toxic damage.

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[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How much is a bite attack from a dog or a wolf? A human bite would be at most half the bite of a dog.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

A human bite should be 1d4-2 then imo

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[–] HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone 6 points 1 year ago

meanwhile monks are out here dropping d10 dragontail kicks to the chest

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[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago (3 children)

OP didn't wash their mouth out at any point before the hospital? Red flag and mouth right there.

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, if the story is true, that's a fucking terrible nurse (and person) for not reporting it - dude could be in a domestic abuse situation getting stitches and she's just like "yeah whatever"

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Or she thought it was a sex thing

[–] Bread@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is 100% what she thought. I have no doubt about it. There are far too many people that come in that accidentally fell on a 12 inch girthy vegetable.

[–] darth_tiktaalik@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Million to one shot doc, million to one!

[–] Khrux@ttrpg.network 10 points 1 year ago

They did get engaged, maybe this is the cover story.

[–] Uprise42@artemis.camp 13 points 1 year ago

Would’ve been better if they said he had to get a rabies vaccine.

The chances of getting rabies is extremely small, but the second you say that will result in them immediately vaccinating you for the sake of safety as that window can close fairly quickly. And if you change your story they typically don’t care because people scared of vaccines change their story all the time.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's deranged. You didn't spit out or wipe your mouth? You have another human's meat and blood in your mouth and you just casually went with them to hospital like you're wearing lipstick?

I'm not buying it.

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[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago (4 children)

And the nurse laughed, and the doctor laughed, and the gurney laughed.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 1 year ago

the medical equipment laughed, none of us passed the wisdom check and we got consumed by mimics

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

And that Gurney's name? Albert Einstein.

[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gurney? Is that some sort of gazebo?

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A gurney is a device used to move a patient who can't easily walk and needs to lie flat. Unlike a stretcher, a gurney has wheels so that it doesn't need to be carried. When an EMT transports a patient from an ambulance into a hospital emergency room, she uses a gurney.

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[–] Lizardking27@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] smeg@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago

Of course it didn't happen, it's a post on the internet! Much like at the gaming table we're here for fun, not realism!

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[–] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A commoner(your average person) has 4hp. It would be difficult to kill someone in 1 bite unless you went right to the throat. 1 d4 is more than enough damage, and imo is actually too much for a single bite from a human.

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[–] Susaga@ttrpg.network 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If a common human can survive it, it dealt less than 4 damage. And unless you're a monk, tavern brawler or some race that adds a bite attack, that's an unarmed attack and only deals 1+Strength damage.

[–] bam13302@ttrpg.network 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

IRL letal damage is rarely immediately lethal, which is a fact not translated well into the game. The fact he went to the ER is a good sign that it very easily could have lead to death for someone without medical aid.

Also by biting the arm instead of say, the neck, is pretty clear it was a declared non-lethal attack

[–] Susaga@ttrpg.network 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In either case, he'd have fallen unconscious first. If he did, then sure, but otherwise... And it still wouldn't mean it was 1d6+Strength, because you can still roll high on a d4.

Bite a bear and get back to me. That'll be a better metric.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bringing realism into D&D is silly. For one thing, we're talking about a levelled character, they're necessarily super human. For another, by your bear logic a .22 rifle wouldn't deal damage at all.

[–] Susaga@ttrpg.network 7 points 1 year ago

This entire post is people trying to debate game mechanics using real world violence. I'm pointing out they're doing it badly.

And yes, PCs are superhuman to a degree. That's why they have much higher ability scores and, in the case of the barbarian, a bonus to damage while raging. And when they do an unarmed attack, it deals 1 + Strength (+2 for Rage). For a commoner, that's 1 or 2 points of damage. For a level 1 barbarian, that's around 6 points. 1d4 + mods doesn't make sense and 1d6 is right out.

I suggested a bear because it has twice as much health as a commoner, so there's more space to measure. A .22 rifle can kill a bear, but it might take a few shots because of a low damage roll. And it's a fuck ton more likely to kill it than just biting it. 1 point of damage isn't a small amount. We just don't want to measure anything smaller.

[–] Brainsploosh@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I came to say precisely this.

The standard hp for a regular human, which for the setting is probably in better shape than the office honed bodies of today, to be incapacitated for combat and eventually die is about 4 (depending on edition).

There is maybe one way a trained human could perform a combat biting attack that would render someone unable to fight back, which is a bite to crush the wind pipe, and with all anatomical protection in place, it seems unfeasible even if they would have the jaw strength for it.

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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aren't human bites like super dangerous because of how filthy our mouths are?

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes. We have one of the dirtiest mouths. Like flesh eating bacteria in a bite wound from humans is par for the course.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So 1+Strength immediate damage and a constitution saving throw with a DC of 10+damage dealt or suffer an infection curse? Sounds badass.

[–] JoshuaSlowpoke777@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Worldbuilding idea for a challenging campaign: give every fully-sentient humanoid character, commoners included, a bite attack that powerful. That aughta put the kibosh on any murderhobo behavior for a time.

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[–] snor10@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago
[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You could bite your own or someone else's finger in half as easily as you can bite a carrot. Don't underestimate the mechanical power of the jaw

[–] Uprise42@artemis.camp 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

A normal person cannot bite their own finger in half because the body has things in place to prevent you from overly injuring yourself like that. You would stop yourself short and just cause pain, maybe bleeding, but no long term damage.

Now someone else’s finger is a different story. Also people with certain medical disorders can ignore the feelings stopping them from biting their own finger off.

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've always wondered if this is actually true, or if it just gets spread around as true because no sane person would actually test it with all their might lol

Or maybe it's true in the sense that "a normal person can't stab themselves in the face with a knife because the body has things in place to prevent that"

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

I mean... There's this guy that cut off his arm to get out of a hole sooooo...

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[–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 12 points 1 year ago

Chaotic cringe

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hah, this reminds me of when I was a teenager and a girl bit me pretty hard. She didn't send me to the hospital (low roll on the damage?) but she did leave a bruise. To this day, I don't know if it was meant to be a form of flirting.

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[–] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Stop calling it fake, they were just playing a game of DnD². Instead of pretending to be wizards and tieflings going on an epic adventure , they pretend to be a bunch of regular people playing DnD. Campains usually consist of trying to get all the characters together for a game of DnD.

I myself play as a human (only race available) named Dave, who's trying to find a balance between his work as an accountant and his hobby of playing DnD. In my last session I fumbled an extrovert skill check trying to order pizza for the group.

It's all very meta

[–] ClockNimble@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I could see this as being fake, but I believe it is equally likely to be real. 11th hour, slightly buzzed or worse, character is hanging by a thread and you want to stretch every rule to infinity and beyond? I have seen some ahem interesting...examples to "validate" a rules "extension". Chainmail belts, blowdarts, contained arson, to name the standouts. Just biting someone hard enough to need stitches? Easily possible.

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[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't like biters, it's not cool at all.

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