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How is someone that gets out of breath eating a donut going to protect and serve anyone?

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[–] PurpleGameBoy@lemmy.zip 10 points 9 hours ago

Cops serve capital, not us.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

NYPD is an army with offices around the world and pays as much as $600,000/year to individuals for pension.

They are not a police force; they are a Mafia.

Most small town.police forces are the same.

Their job is not to stop crime; it is to serve the wealthy and crush their opponents.

This is why every American should be armed at all times and ready to defend each other immediately.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 4 points 2 hours ago

Chicago is the same. The CPD union is basically a shadow government.

[–] LordGimp@lemm.ee 46 points 19 hours ago

You misunderstand. Cops in the US have no legal obligation to protect OR serve anyone. Check out the NY subway guy that was attacked with a knife while cops watched from 10 feet away behind bulletproof glass. They literally hid in the conductor booth and watched this guy get stabbed in the fucking face repeatedly.

Not only did the guy survive, he actually overpowered and subdued the attacker. Guy brought a suit against the NYPD for failing to protect him when their motto at the time was literally "Protect and serve". Long story short, the end result is that he got a real live judge to say out loud that police have no actual duty to protect you when it could endanger themselves. Coupled with your observation on the obesity of American cops, it could be argued that walking down the street to issue a ticket could be lethal for the cop in question and therefore they have no obligation to do it, they simply choose to do it out of spite.

[–] silentjohn@lemmy.ml 19 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Many departments don't require physical tests once hired.

Most of the work cops do is domestic disturbance calls and traffic stops. There's no reason to be physically fit for either of those jobs. Also, most people see the day shift and in nicer neighborhoods; again there's really no need for physicality. Getting on day shift and good area means you've been on the police a while and "earned it" (or you have some clout), so usually olderish cops.

The young jacked mfers usually are on the night shift and in rougher neighborhoods.

Additionally, a bullet resistant vest and all the gear will make you look bigger/fatter than you really are.

So it's kind of a combo of all that.

Also, ACAB

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Plus they're not going to run you down, they're going to taser you in the back and watch you face plant into the asphalt. They don't give a fuck. They're going to dog pile and twist your arm until you "comply", no need to communicate more than that. Comply or die. Bullet will outrun you every time. Fuck cops.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

And when they show up on a domestic dispute, they’ll take the abusers side so that they don’t have to risk any form of conflict. The battered spouse isn’t going to fight you if you try to arrest them! (2 and half years now - no answers or report on why “your husband wants to move in a prostitute - time for you to leave” happened)

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (4 children)

How is someone that gets out of breath eating a donut going to protect and serve anyone?

They don't serve anyone

[–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

The fat ones have too many servings of everything.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 8 points 23 hours ago

What? They definitely serve rich people. Why do you think they were created?

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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Why are they also so clearly low iq, and hyper violent?
and why are they paid so well?

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

Paid to keep the poor in place between wars.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 2 points 11 hours ago

Police forces deliberately filter out intelligent people because A) the job is mostly really boring, and smart people don't like boring jobs, and 2) Smart people won't put up with the open racism, corruption, and general bullshit of cops.

Ever notice on the news, that the local police chief always sounds like a swaggering, arrogant dumbass? It's because he was promoted from a professional gene pool that was compromised from the start. He's was just the biggest arrogant swaggering dumbass out of big pool of arrogant swaggering dumbasses.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I think once you pass the physical strength/endurance exam to become a cop, you don't have to take any to remain one. I definitely think that should change, though. Make them pass once a year to retain their job.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

Fuck the physical part, they should take yearly psychological exams and have continuous education on conflict resolution.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 22 hours ago

They don't even have to pass those if they don't want to. In portions of America it is just: win an election, appoint your friends and lackies.

A lot of departments use the admission tests to screen out candidates who might be overqualified: they specifically won't want the best. An overwight blob is preferable to an in shape individual that might think before acting.

[–] waggz@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

There are definitely agencies that do exactly what you described. The one I'm most familiar with has a sliding scale based on age and they are required to pass annually.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (4 children)

to protect and serve is not their job.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 5 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

"protect and serve" is copaganda, since SCOTUS ruled on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia in late 1981. "Fun" animated video to describe same: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAfUI_hETy0

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Lookup Philip Brailsford. History of brutality, executed a pest control worker for doing his job with his own personal AR-15 engraved with “you’re fucked” on the side, there is full video evidence of the man crying and begging for his life on his knees with his hands on his head, Brailsford was rewarded for it with a full pension and an early retirement.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

And this:
https://reason.com/2014/10/22/man-gets-stabbed-on-subway-guess-how-hel/

Also used successfully as a precedent when the cowards waited in the hall while a shooter was on a rampage in a school a few years ago.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I think the subway stabbing is the main focus of the Cracked video I linked. But, maybe it's a different subway stabbing.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

It is, didn't have time for a video.
Glad so many know these days what they are and do

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[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 241 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Neither protecting or serving are actual job requirements.

[–] LemmyIsReddit2Point0@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The "no duty to protect" doctrine. Our news doesn't even have to be factual.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 11 points 1 day ago
[–] kubok@fedia.io 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

i have been to the US several times. Have you ever tried to eat healthily?

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 5 points 23 hours ago

Its pretty easy. There's fruits and vegetables all over that country lol

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

you have to make your own food it's the only way

[–] Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In my part of the world, cops are near on top of the food chain in any town and city, sometimes literally getting a free pass as long as they do something for a politician, a celebrity, or a business personality. So some of them, especially senior officers, do eventually get obese because not only they get to choose what duties they want to carry out, but also either they have three full square meals plus two snacks a day, or maybe a drinking party two to four times a month.

Of course they -- the Philippine National Police -- are a government agency, but also they're a fraternity, the so-called "Brotherhood": "you scratch my back as long as I scratch yours".

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 84 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Cops with guns don't have to run.. 🤷‍♂️

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[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 71 points 1 day ago (16 children)

Cities in pretty much the entire country are running with an understaffed police force. They'll take what they can get. I'm 100% pro Union, but another problem is that police unions help protect unfit (literally and figuratively) police from being forced to try harder by abusing protected status health claims. I've seen in both police and military, they are handed paperwork if they are not meeting fitness expectations, but nothing ever comes of it.

[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 59 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Police unions are the only bad union.

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[–] Echo5@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Heard from a local cop that it had something to do with the union. If the department wants to implement a standard the union would require something or other. Something about an incentive? I didn’t get the whole picture obviously. I know police need unions in case somebody sues them but does seem kind of dumb that it’s so difficult to enforce a physical standard.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Now I dont work in the law enforcement industry but I do work in an industry that has supposed fitness requirements although they arent enforced.

For us, the union told them "If they have to maintain a weight of X to remain employed. You have to pay them to hit the gym on company time or pay their gym fees and an allowance." So the company filed that away under "fuck that". Now if you get too fat for the equipment they just move you to a different duty, often one with a shitload of walking around.

[–] theblips@lemm.ee 2 points 21 hours ago

It's a fair enough requirement from the union

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

I've definitely seen fat police officers in other countries.

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 22 points 1 day ago

They are not required to serve and protect. US courts say so.

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