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[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Americans when a country surrenders to a heavily armed death machine: lol, surrender monkeys!

Americans when a country surrenders to a diaper wearing fascist old man: USA! USA! USA!

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Americans when a country ~~surrenders to~~ rallies behind a diaper wearing fascist old man

He won with a majority the second time through. This isn't a fight Americans lost.

Meanwhile, in France: French President Emmanuel Macron on Wednesday congratulated "President Donald Trump", saying he was ready to work with the US vote frontrunner "with respect and ambition" like "we managed to do for four years".

I mean, maybe this was 11D chess to give Airbus monopoly status in the global civilian aircraft market. But on its face that looks like the French taking a huge L.

[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

That's what politicians do, especially if they don't like the winner. Yeah of course Macron thinks trump is a petulant man child, but it doesn't make sense to needlessly antagonise people as unstable as trump.

It's like if you're walking down the road and see a crack head, you're not going to flip them off and call them a twat. Because A: they might attack you and B: having a reputation as someone who is easy to get along with is a good thing.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

it doesn’t make sense to needlessly antagonise people as unstable as trump.

I remember when people used to say that about Vladimir Putin

[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

The difference is that Putin isn't unstable. He's just a dick. Everything he does is deliberate and as such it doesn't make any sense to be nice. He doesn't care and is going to do what he wants regardless.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 120 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Meanwhile I as a German look at the French with envy everytime they burn down their capital the moment their goverment does something that slightly inconveniences them.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago

As an American, same.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago

We should all be so based.

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I had a discussion with my friend regarding socialism and the argument they had against socialism is everyone don't need to work hard and I was like, isn't that good tho?

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 12 points 1 day ago

(just gonna shoehorn this anvil into this elevator here...)

[–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 11 points 22 hours ago

Hey, – on the plus side – no one bothers to look very hard at why you're still taxing your former colonies for you having colonized them?

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 102 points 1 day ago (5 children)

For cutting off the heads of the elites, and crepes.

[–] MsFlammkuchen@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How do you cut the head of a crepe off?

Very carefully.

[–] kunaltyagi@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

By dropping a big heavy knife

PS: poor gp. They even put an oxford comma

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago

I'm a crepe

I'm a weiiiiirdoooooo

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

And for wildly over-pronouncing crescent.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

tbf, both equally fantastic accomplishments, vive la France! 🙏

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 11 points 1 day ago

And subsequently cutting off the heads of almost everyone else.

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Yeah, the French are pussies for ~~not joining our dumb war in Iraq~~ surrendering early in WWII

[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 1 day ago
[–] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Remembered for this by the Americans.

I sometimes think they get so fixated on this as some kind of psychogical distraction to avoid remembering their own country spent most of that war sitting on the sidelines making a profit.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

America was on the sidelines converting most of a continent from a depression era economy to a war time economy and tooling up every manufacturer that made metal into making weapons. FFS, Singer (yes, the sewing machine company) made 1911 .45s.

Then we started sending war materiel to the allies measured in millions of tons.

Then we launched an invasion force of fucking biblical proportions just to get a toehold in France. All while fighting in Italy and Northern Africa, AND while fighting the Empire of Japan across the world's largest ocean (with our best base and most of the best (7th) fleet wrecked).

Sorry it took a couple of years.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wut? The US was still in the middle of economic disaster when WW2 began. What reason did the US have to enter Europe until Germany's allies attacked us?

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 23 hours ago

The US was still in the middle of an economic disaster

So was everyone else, even Germany was starting to run into food shortages. If anything this would be a reason to go to war, as the only thing that ended up getting us out of the great depression was the war.

What reason did the US have to enter Europe until Germany's allies attacked us?

Stopping fascism, and the holocaust. We've started wars on way less justified grounds than that.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah but you should know by now the US is a pile of shit for taking too long to get into any major conflict, but ALSO the US is a pile of shit for involving themselves in other countries conflicts.

[–] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

There is a huge difference between entering a war to help stop acts of aggression, versus going around supporting acts of aggression, helping to depose democratically elected leaders, or funding genocides.

I think you will find it is the last three that have attracted the real criticism over the years.

[–] And009@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 day ago

Had us in the first half

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Tell that to my dead grandfathers that killed Nazis to save your asses along with global freedom and democracy. We have our warts like EVERYONE yet we're first to fall on the sword and eat shit like this. Fuck that. I'm not conceding my fucking country or its name. Especially to 250 year old allies with whom we formed the first West free of monarchs.

[–] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

You hit the nail on the head! This is exactly why I think the American attitude to the French is so peculiar:

Especially to 250 year old allies with whom we formed

American culture should remember the role the French played in the American War of Independence (and the French great great great great great grandfathers who died for you) instead of defaulting to that weird and crass "cheese eating surrender monkeys" nonsense.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 1 points 18 minutes ago

The ones with brains know. I'm not special. Remember which voices are typically loudest.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Buuuut, your bread and pastries will have way more cachet than German bread and Austrian pastries do. And your cuisine and wine will have somewhat more cachet than those of Spain or (debatably) Italy.

The pettiest French foodie: worth it.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago

At least they've got Clair Obscur

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fucking Belgium, on the other hand...

[–] Kennystillalive@feddit.org 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] vladmech@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oof. May Leopold rot in hell.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're lucky all their notable dishes are borderline unpronounceable to non English speakers.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 2 points 23 hours ago

Fries and waffles?

[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Meanwhile the UK keep their aura of Europe's saviors, nonwhistanding the fact British troops evacuated swiftly from Dunkirk in may-june 1940, leaving the French alone against the Wehrmacht...

[–] NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't we (UK) also bomb the French fleet albeit to avoid the Germans from repurposing them?

My take is shit happens in war, the US did what they could when they could. But the same dignity needs to be given to the French.

We were allied then, we sure as hell need to be allied now

[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago

Hell yeah, more than ever comrade!

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 points 19 hours ago

Do not damage la buildings!

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

The propagandening!

[–] morphballganon@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] kunaltyagi@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

Needs more upvotes 😂

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

And for getting their asses kicked several times by Nelson.

[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago

To be fair, at that time fighting the royal navy was like the toughest kid on the playground picking a fight with a hyena.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website -3 points 1 day ago

Meme: about France

Comments: yeah but other countries blah blah blah...

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