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I can’t comprehend how they can still be salty about the pandemic vaccines.
Sure, lots of things went wrong in the pandemic, but those who got the jab went on with their lives, no health issues.
A lot of people made an ass of themselves and now have to pretend for the rest of their lives that vaccines don’t work.
A lot of people made an ass of themselves and now have to pretend for the rest of their lives that vaccines don’t work.
So many of our problems literally boil down to people refusing to ever admit they were wrong about anything
They've built not only their political career on lies and misinformation, but also their personal lives. If they did admit they were wrong, they'd not only lose their jobs but it would force them to questions every aspect of themselves, and they're far too afraid of what they're going to find to ever do that.
It's very sad, especially when it's family. How do you ever learn anything unless you can admit you're wrong (or simply don't know) about something?
They hated so many things about the pandemic. I don't think the Venn diagram of the various idiotic pet peeves and conspiracy theories is exactly one circle, but there seems to be a lot of resentment for many things coming from the same basic set of people, clustered in the Republican Party. They hated so many things.
The government stepping to help people in need with stimulus checks. This seemed to enrage a lot of them, even if they cashed that check themselves.
The notion that there was a safe and effective vaccine seems to have really driven them up the wall. I don't know if it's because they saw lots of people not relying on "thoughts and prayers" when it came to a pandemic? They really hated being laughed at about the horse dewormer stuff, let me tell you that much.
I think what drove some of them the craziest is that many of them have a need to be in-person to bully someone and Covid probably denied them a lot of that. I noticed the people wanting people "back to work" the most were these types. I think Joe being able to "campaign from his basement" as donnie failed to get re-elected and do the most basic of things to be popular during a pandemic really just drove them to total incoherence. Many of them were already marginal with the Pizzagate and Qanon shit, but Covid drove them right off a cliff. I think Obama getting elected, then Covid drove a large portion of our population into batshit insanity.
I was reading the/r/conservative response to this last night and they see themselves as persecuted and are unable to grasp why people who were unlikely to die from COVID should still take precautions against it. To you and me the story is plain and simple; we do it to hopefully slow the spread and help keep the most vulnerable as safe as possible. Hooray that worked (mostly). Now they say "see it was nothing, the vaccine was and is fake." They've completely forgotten about the literal truck loads of corpses and that COVID couple have been magnitudes worse if more variants had surfaced.
It's awful but I kinda wish we did let it get that bad, if enough of those halfwits died the whole world would be better off.
Many of them will never get over vaccine mandates.
And many of them literally think that Fauci should get the death penalty for some supposed transgression. Nothing they say is even remotely rooted in reality and it's all quite incoherent, but boy are they mad.
His latest proclamation is he wants anyone with an NIH grant to be required to publish in a gov run journal instead of, say, Lancet or Nature. He feels they are "corrupt" without providing a shred of evidence, never mind they are peer reviewed. So he'd prefer a gov system where papers could be rejected because they don't align with his conspiracy views and they wouldn't be allowed to publish elsewhere.
Thank goodness we have the stupid conservatives in power so they can politicize everything.
Agreed. This is not even a political decision. Europe is doing exactly the same
(1) That link is for the Danish Health Authority, not all of Europe. (2) The Danish Health Authority recommends pregnant women get vaccinated, whereas RFK said it will NO LONGER be recommended for pregnant women to get vaccinated. So they are opposite. They align on saying healthy children and under 65 are not being recommended to get vaccination. (3) RFK made it political by making this recommendation BEFORE the public scientific review panel made its analysis of vaccine recommendations for the year. i.e. a political appointee made a decision for a scientific community without their input.
Same in UK including no pregnancies. I'm not going through every country in Europe. The point is that the US rules are not out of step with the rest of the world.
RFK and US medical insurance rules may be crazy, but the science is pretty standard.
He'll ban the diagnosis of Autism next, then declare that it's cured.
Then HitlerPig will take credit for it, and tell the world that he cured Autism all by himself.
A few things to get out of the way
I don't disagree with this policy though. (...and that is this post obliterated).
We already take a conservative approach with medical treatments and pregnancy, including some forms of vaccination which we do not give to pregnant women. I have absolutely no problem being conservative with treatment which work in a different way to previous treatments.
With young children, I don't think the benefit / harm calculation for the individual ever supported giving it to them. The probability that catching COVID would cause you serious harm was always lower the younger you were. Whereas the probability for side effects was always there. The only rationale to vaccinate children was to limit transmission in the population which is something it utterly failed to do.
The role out of the COVID treatments was (IMHO) a high risk strategy but arguably necessary because of the situation we were in. We're now in a different situation. We should be re-evaluating the decision made in a time of crisis to see if they still hold up.
I thought they've always been very conservative about pregnant woman and very young kids for vaccines (and other treatments in general).
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At least he is making these changes based on the recommendation of the scientific community, right? He is basing this off the recommendation of the scientific community, right guys? GUYS? IS HE??!
I remember seeing a while ago that his deputy resigned because Kennedy didn't actually want to look at dissenting research and points, but just wanted to find evidence to what he already believed
A parrot would make a better leader. In fact, a dead bear would make a better leader.
Our public health is being limited by a conspiracy theorist.
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healthy people spend less money on healthcare, therefore less profits for your owners, therefore lets make everyone sick
Or someone who just like making people sick. After Madagascar and other mass fatalities he was involved with, it might just be that he is an old fashioned psychopathic killer whose weapon is germs?
Screw that guidance. I'll be getting the new COVID shot as soon as its available (in whatever country I have to travel to to get it).
What this really means is that if you want a COVID shot, you'll have to pay out-of-pocket because insurance will now say its not necessary for health.
I'm at the point where I'm wondering if Americans will be able to get the shot at all
People are going to die because of his ignorance. He's a murderer.
"I don't think people should be taking medical advice from me.". RFK Jr, Health and Human Services Secretary, May 14, 2025
I wish hell was real.
Hey how’s that measles outbreak going
Noted - healthy children and pregnant women should still get the shots.
Insurance companies will likely take their cues from him.
Which means you'd be able to get your vaccine...but if it's not "necessary", you'll have to pay cash.
My husband and I got Covid last week. Probably the new variant. Our latest booster was 6 months ago. This variant KICKED OUR ASS. We are on week 2 of coughing, wheezing, and feeling extremely tired. Lost a bunch of income from our respective businesses because we were not able to do any work at all.
This was a stark reminder of how important it is to keep up with boosters. I hope that we can find a way to keep getting them, even if that means paying out of pocket or lying.
That is just not a proper headline... You are missing critical context? More like, "Kennedy, who recently willingly swam in literal shit with his own grandchildren, says..."
i dont actually trust Kennedy to know anything about health though...
Didn't he just say not to take health advice from him a couple weeks ago?
But this announcement means your aren't taking health advice from him, it is now the official policy of the government.
"Its not me saying it, its the CDC!" ugh
This is what happens when the Health Secretary is someone who never actually studied medicine, practiced as a doctor, or even spent time as a nurse.
