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[–] hiddengoat@kbin.social 85 points 11 months ago (10 children)

Fully blocking only if you aren't using uBlock Origin, which you just have to update the filters on.

Complete waste of effort.

Alphabet needs to be broken up.

[–] HuddaBudda@kbin.social 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This effort I don't believe was targeting people like most of what you would find here.

This ad-block ban, was mostly targeted at people who didn't know what an ad-blocker was and didn't want to have to deal with having to get banned.

If Alphabet(google) is actually serious about blocking ad-blockers, I would be surprised. Mostly because Microsoft has had more experience with this, also has billions, and even they quit.

[–] hiddengoat@kbin.social 19 points 11 months ago

IF? Are you paying attention to what's going on with Chrome?

Google is introducing a bullshit system that will ultimately let them control what the browser can and can't display.
They are working to eliminate ad blockers entirely.

Their entire fucking goal is to lock down YOUR FUCKING BROWSER so they can send you any ads they want, at any time they want, without them even having to be served through a website. They also want to push their "security" bullshit so that if you're using a non-Chrome browser you get excluded from the internet.

And right now the overwhelming majority of browsers are Chrome based.

The EU will likely not let this happen, but the US has no balls when it comes to carving up shitbags these days.

[–] Pamasich@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

Fully blocking only if you aren't using uBlock Origin

Not even that, I use Adblock Plus and have no trouble accessing Youtube and watching videos. Didn't even need to update any filters, it just keeps working as-is.

[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Until they start banning accounts for violating the tos. Then people with 20 years of emails are going to be lost without them.

[–] hiddengoat@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That will absolutely include government accounts.

Google would get instagibbed.

[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I don't believe that it really would have to. Any official government accounts likely are tied to the government Google organization. If you are talking about private accounts then Google can use the horde of data they have to tie government officials to private accounts.

Overall though, this is also following the belief that anyone in the government is smart enough to use ad blockers which I have my doubts. I don't think any real high up government official uses ad block.

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[–] Cyv_@kbin.social 64 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Ublock origin on firefox. Never forced an update, never did any fiddling with block lists. Never got a single warning or notification, still works perfectly. Huh.

[–] Tweed@lemmy.studio 7 points 11 months ago

Could just be luck of the draw. I'm using the same setup and sometimes I get it, sometimes I don't

[–] Rayspekt@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

I did get the splash notification about adblockers a few times ago on a linux garuda system with firefox and ublock, but after popping up on two videos it was gone.

[–] JustARegularNerd@aussie.zone 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm in the same boat whether on Windows, macOS, Linux or Android. But my sister, in the same household, also using uBO on FF, has been getting the message constantly

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[–] Sina@beehaw.org 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm also using ublock on Firefox, I had plenty of notifications over the past two weeks, I have even an Invidious redirect set up, though admittedly ublock is winning RIGHT NOW.

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[–] Pamasich@kbin.social 59 points 11 months ago (2 children)

around the world

fully blocking ad blockers

One of those two has to be false, because I'm still not seeing any anti-adblocker measures on my end.

[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 26 points 11 months ago

Silence, Marsian scum, we finally got you.

[–] Deemo 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Only time I every encountered the popup was when I used orion with its built in adblocker. And even then I gat one warning (no metion of 3 strike policy). Only change now is the added a 3 second timer to the dismiss button.

Edit: Ublock origen and firefox as usual no issue

[–] xoggy@programming.dev 42 points 11 months ago (5 children)

It's all good just make sure you have an up-to-date ublock-based extension: https://reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/17j6ygs/youtube_antiadblock_and_ads_october_29_2023_mega/

As of writing this Adblock Plus isn't working with Youtube but no reason you should be using that over ublock origin anyways.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 5 points 11 months ago

I have Ad Guard installed and still use UBlock Origin for its features.

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[–] Stillhart@lemm.ee 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So fully blocking ad blockers other than the most popular one? I guess we should be glad they weren't this bad at programming 18 years ago when they launched Youtube...

[–] Pamasich@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm not using the most popular one (I use Adblock Plus, which iirc most people hate) and I can also freely use Youtube with it turned on. So it's not about ublock.

[–] Stillhart@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago

I don't hate ABP, it used to be the main one everyone used, including me. Problem is it stopped working well at some point so we all switched to uBlock Origin. I'm glad ABP is working well again, but I'll keep recommending uBlock Origin as long as it keeps working.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 28 points 11 months ago (2 children)

hmmm hadnt noticed. must be a you problem. heh

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago
[–] tesseract@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have seen it just once so far. However, this isn't the end. YouTube is rolling this out gradually - perhaps to avoid a massive backlash. I'm sure that even uBO won't be good enough soon.

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[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@beehaw.org 27 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The two worst things that ever happened to YouTube were monetized content and Google buying it. It hasn't even been very fun to browse YouTube since like 2010.

[–] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Remember YouTube before people started doing ad-like thumbnails, and radio voices?

Like ...the top channels were normal people.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@beehaw.org 5 points 11 months ago

I miss that so much!

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago

Someone like FRED was on top at one point. Which is insane looking back on it. All it took was running around being obnoxious with a high pitched voice to be the largest channel on YouTube back then.

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[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Very true. In germany we had "Ytitty", a group of young guys doing music parodies and comedy stuff. They went more and more professional and less funny, not realizing thats not how comedy works.

30M Views

LOL

[–] unix_joe@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 11 months ago

I got the popup all the time for a few weeks with Firefox and uBlock Origin. As a YouTube Premium subscriber. The paid service. The whole reason they were pushing back on ad blockers to begin with.

Fuck these guys, I let the subscription lapse.

[–] Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So kind of Google, always putting out new fun challenges to encourage people to get their hands dirty with hacking their crap :)

[–] PenguinTD@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Lol, Microsoft played that game so long and just give up and just get paid by pressure/bundle sale to the business. Let's see how long Google can keep up with the milking game.

[–] sparklepower@beehaw.org 14 points 11 months ago

i just kept pushing the x in the top right corner for a few weeks, then it gave me the 3-2-1 countdown, and then finally it blocked me from viewing any more videos until i disabled my ad blocker. i disabled uBlock origin, refreshed, re-enabled it again. no more ads since i did that.

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

No it's not.

I mean, maybe it's trying, I don't know, but I'm not even trying to keep ublock origin up to date (maybe it updates itself in the background?) and I haven't noticed any difference (or ads) other than the normal progressive enshittification of both platform and channels, and I'm pretty certain I live in the world... EDIT: And before anyone asks, I am logged in, I mostly use YouTube through the subscriptions page, so being logged in doesn't seem to be causing any problems for me either.

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[–] drwho@beehaw.org 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Firefox with uBlock Origin and a Pi-Hole on my home network. When I started getting the "you're using an adblocker" popups I used uBO to select and block those, also. That was maybe two weeks ago.

On my work laptop (which is unfortunately remotely managed), Chrome with uBO and a pick-and-blocked filter for the same popup. I still have my background noise for working.

I also have a Piped install that does a pretty nice job as a front-end.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Next step: only available on chrome

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Anti-trust suit in 3...2...1...

[–] rwhitisissle@beehaw.org 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"Best I can do is a small fine. Also, the fine is tax deductible." - Federal Government, 2023.

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Normally I'd be on the same page, but the Biden admin has genuinely made the biggest antitrust moves in the last 30 years.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 13 points 11 months ago

Not exactly a high bar. I'd like to see some of these moves go somewhere, but I don't have high hopes.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

the biggest antitrust moves in the last 30 years.

That's a pretty low bar to clear

[–] drwho@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago

At least someone's actually bothering.

[–] Stillhart@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago

Biggest moves in which direction? They let MS buy Activision...

[–] Radiant_sir_radiant@beehaw.org 5 points 11 months ago

Still works fine here (Switzerland) with Vivaldi's built-in ad blocker and Pi-Hole.

[–] SteposVenzny@beehaw.org 5 points 11 months ago

Not in Incognito mode it isn't.

[–] araquen@beehaw.org 5 points 11 months ago

According to the developer of Wipr, from what I understand Youtube is using A/B testing for their "ad blocker blocker” and that the dev is working on adapting the app for Youtube latest efforts.

In the meantime, I just stopped going to Youtube. I find I now have a lot of time to read.

I wouldn’t mind if Youtube placed and ad. But when a video has 4-5 ads that awkwardly break up the flow of the video I just don’t have the patience.

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