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[–] TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Guess I'm not playing it then. Oh well.

[–] philpo@feddit.org 3 points 6 hours ago

I'd rather have a dev getting a proper Windows build that is running well and optimised for being used with Proton (which is far easier) than a badly working Linux native version

[–] Jagget@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 hours ago

Europa Universalis V means only one thing: we can finally play Europa Universalis IV

[–] themoken@startrek.website 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This is a non-issue. If you're a gaming company in the era of Proton, it makes more sense to just focus on Windows issues than to open yourself to support requests from people running any brand of Linux. Proton is just so much easier to target than standalone Linux and you can serve the Linux community / Steam Deck users without needing any actual expertise.

[–] sploosh@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

This is the scenario I saw debated in the early 2000s on slashdot if you replace Proton with Wine. Some folks didn't like Wine because if it works well it means there's no reason to build natively for Linux, hurting Linux and contextualizing it within Microsoft's ecosystem, instead of beside it. I'm all for anything that means I can play my Steam library and not run Windows, so I think Proton is the bee's knees.

[–] themoken@startrek.website 4 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, I was part of those arguments too. In a perfect world Linux would have enough market share to warrant native ports, but Proton getting Wine one-click integrated into Steam and easily targetable is a more realistic bridge to that scenario than holding out on principle. As it is Linux gaming is in the best shape it's ever been in thanks to Proton.

I also think the argument held more weight 20 years ago, before we started packaging up end user apps in giant self-contained images regularly.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 10 points 14 hours ago

Yeah, I'm not too worried about Proton support, but that will likely cause me to wait a bit to see how it ends up working on Proton.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 14 hours ago

Laughs in Proton

[–] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 34 points 19 hours ago

That's very disappointing.

[–] yistdaj@pawb.social 21 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Given how Paradox published (not in-house developed) games are increasingly Windows only I'm not surprised. I hope they eventually release a Linux version anyway, but it's probably not a huge deal with Proton being so good for single-player games.

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

Their existing releases run better under proton than natively for me (unfortunately).

I think we're heading towards a situation where only FOSS games and certain indies get native ports.

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 11 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Lame, will Atleast allow for proton?

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Proton doesn't need to be allowed. It will be fine, unless they decide to put some terrible anti-cheat.

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Obnoxious launchers - which paradox are bad for - can also fuck with proton. They can be worked around though whereas the ~~rootkit~~ anti-cheat is a complete blocker.

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 3 points 9 hours ago

They can. Though their workaround won't take long to come with a Proton update. At least Paradox isn't known with that kind of anti-cheat.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 points 9 hours ago

I am sure and it is fine i guess but this is a hit to foss enjoyers on the ideological level.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 8 points 18 hours ago