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With the implementation of Patch v0.5.5 this week, we must make yet another compromise. From this patch onward, gliding will be performed using a glider rather than with Pals. Pals in the player’s team will still provide passive buffs to gliding, but players will now need to have a glider in their inventory in order to glide.

How lame. Japan needs to fix its patent laws, it's ridiculous Nintendo owns the simple concept of using an animal to fly.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 57 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Nintendo ownes the IP of hangliders now.

Nintendo will never see another cent from me for this petty bullshit. My kids will play with other toys.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 8 points 6 hours ago

Nintendo can sue me any day, I'm out here making RC hang gliders and making tiny 3 second games where the only purpose is to pull out a glider and put it away instantly.

[–] oyzmo@lemmy.world 19 points 6 hours ago

I don't play Palworld, but still hate firms that behaves like this. Not buying Nintendo anymore 🥳 Emulators from here on :)

Patenting common stuff like this is just stupid! Think I read somewhere that Apple patented squares with rounded corners 😂 Hope Nintendo doesn't use rounded corners in any of their in-game menus.

I though patents were ment to protect important original ideas. Stuff with impact.

[–] Console_Modder@sh.itjust.works 205 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (13 children)

This lawsuit is so stupid. In my opinion, patenting, copyrighting, or trademarking concepts or mechanics in video games shouldn't be allowed at all. The nemesis system in the Shadow of Mordor games was so cool, but we're never going to see anything like it again. Warner went through the trouble to copyright (or something idk I'm not a lawyer) that system, and then let the series die out.

I'm waiting to see the headlines that any other games with a shooty thing that goes bang is illegal, and the concept of shooting a gun in a video game is going to be owned by either Rockstar/Take Two or the collective mob of Call of Duty developers. If the world is gonna get that stupid, I got my fingers crossed that Bubsy 3D owns the rights to jumping

Edit: Thought about it for 10 more seconds and I have questions. Is it specifically gliding using a creature that Nintendo has a problem with, or is it creature-assisted traversal in general? Can they sue Skyrim since you can ride horses? Palworld made the change so that you need to build a glider to glide around. BOTW and TOTK used gliders. Is Nintendo gonna sue them for that now too? I fucking hate all of this so God damned much

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 65 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The tried to patent fucking MOUNTS. Someone get square and blizzard on the sue-train and ream Nintendo a new one.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 33 points 9 hours ago (7 children)

Who the hell in their right mind would want to buy a switch after seeing this?

[–] MagnyusG@lemmy.world 18 points 7 hours ago

most consumers don't care, that's why they're consumers. Switch 2 is gonna sell gangbusters and no amount of frivolous lawsuits is going to put a dent in that.

Plus you still have people mad at Palworld for no reason other than they think it "copied" Pokémon, like the guy getting downvoted into oblivion.

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[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 21 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Iirc sony has a patent on an input device having two separate data streams. It seems you write the most general thing you can on patents and patent offices don't care

[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 14 points 7 hours ago

Amazon has a patent on the "one click purchase" button...

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[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 80 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I'm unconvinced that the Nemesis system would have worked well in too many other settings, but one game patent that had a tangible effect on the industry was Bandai-Namco's patent on loading screen mini games. Remember how you could make the Soul Calibur II characters yell stuff while the match loaded? Funny that we didn't see it again until Street Fighter 6, isn't it? Conveniently after a patent would have expired. We went through an entire era of games with load times that could have benefited from mini games, and by the time the patent expired, we had largely come up with ways to get rid of load screens altogether.

[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 15 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Well saying the nemesis system wouldn’t have worked well in other games is almost assuming that it wouldn’t be changed or evolved to fit other genres. People forget that the real damage some patents/copyrights do is not in their explicit existence, it’s the sphere of influence they exert on related concepts entirely. We weren’t just robbed of the nemesis system, we were robbed of anything even slightly resembling it.

And I feel like once you understand that you realize it can be adapted to greater things. Spider Man games could have used it. Assassins creed would have been an amazing place for experimentation with those ideas. Could be adapted to Star Wars games, dragons dogma, yakuza, borderlands. And it doesn’t need to be a central focus of these games like it was with the WB games. But even the concept of having enemies that kill you be leveled up in some way is now tainted.

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[–] Iapar@feddit.org 8 points 6 hours ago

Make it so that you can give the glider pal skins.

[–] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 103 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I mean... Patents in general are bullshit just for things like this.

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 72 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Since when is flying on a monster patentable. What a bunch of bullshit. Nintendo has really used up the last of any good will the company had. I will not be giving them a dime from here on out.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

Yeah, Nintendo seems to think they are untouchable. They can do whatever, charge whatever, not even innovate anymore with the Switch 2, and attack fans. I'm done with Nintendo, the only way I'll ever play any of their games is on the high seas.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 48 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck you, Nintendo. Release a fucking decent Pokemon game instead of lawyering the competition that's offering a more desirable product

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 8 points 6 hours ago

It's the capitalism way.

"The company with the best, cheapest product will come out on top.... Unless the shittier company has more money and lawyers and then they sue everyone else into the ground for even attempting to break into the market."

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 9 points 7 hours ago

Shit like this is why I haven't bought a Nintendo product in many years.

They might think it's keeping their profits up, but it's hurting their business, as a lot more people than me feel the exact same way.

[–] vane@lemmy.world 28 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Can't they just release free DLC with those features worldwide exlcuding Japan where those patents are enforceable ?

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That would be a nice "fuck you," but it's probably not worth the extra effort to them.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 14 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The spectacle of it would certainly boost sales for a little bit. How much and whether it covers the development time, who knows.

I'd do it on principle alone, but I'm a petty bitch.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It would be neat if modders put all the "patent-infringing" stuff back in.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 6 points 6 hours ago

I'm sure they will.

And as long as none of them try profiting off it, Nintendo has no leg to stand on with their usual C&D bullshit.

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