umm... good? This might actually might have saved some lives.
this post was submitted on 08 May 2025
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By not delivering lane-keeping? I appreciate the unreasoning hatred, but some reasoning would be good too.
So besides Trump and Musk being passionate fuck buddies, how is this legal? Surely this is fraud and deceit right?
A fine is just a fee for breaking the law.
every non-vandalized cybertruck is an affront to decent society
Lmao they put lane-keeping assist behind a marketing-wank paywall for their already expensive EVs - something manufacturers like Subaru and Hyundai has made standard across their entire line for years now
What a sad joke this company has become, another example of failed leadership valuing yes-men and sycophancy
I rode in a 2019 Subaru Ascent (like a big Outback) a few years ago, the lane keep assist was great even back then, not to mention the blind spot monitoring and all that. and it was all included. wtf is Tesla even doing with all that time and money??
Yeah, plus the assist feature shuts itself off when it can't be used (ie. driving into the sun) unlike Tesla's version that instead chooses to ram you into a building then blames you for it by disengaging 0.1 seconds before the collision.
I love mine. Combined with adaptive cruise, it’s amazing for slowly rolling traffic, longer journeys, and stop-and-go traffic. I’m under no impression the car is ‘driving’ but having a machine take over the mental load is great and frees up that capacity for other driving tasks and/or awareness of the road.
Tesla calling that technology “Auto” anything without it being genuinely 100% autonomous should have landed someone a fat fine or jail time
It’s going to Elon Musk bank account.
Hyundai Lanekeep is better than teslas too
It’s absolutely pitiful that they can’t figure out lane-keeping when a cars a fraction of the price have it.
It’s also a huge red flag that they are shipping “self driving” but can’t do lane keep assist.
They’ve “figured out” lane-keeping - they’re just keeping it reserved for FSD. It’s in FSD. They’re just now flipping to not offer it as a standalone feature, which don’t get me wrong is a shitty move.
Is that the same lane-keeping that Full-Self-Drives into concrete barriers? https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/08/tech/tesla-trial-wrongful-death-walter-huang
Oh they know how to do it. They are just desperate to swindle existing owners since their vehicle sales have fallen off a cliff.
I don’t think they can, because they’re suffering so much from the rectal-cranial inversion that Musk started with his FSD.
Muskrat insists on using computer vision entirely, and building it in-house. Tesla (probably EM) as I recall also insulted MobilEye so they refuse to do business with them. Mind you, I think lane keeping is generally a computer vision problem.
FSD has lane-keeping in it. It’s not up for debate if they can do it or not, because they’ve been doing it for years.
Also I’m not sure what other technology you think they would use for lane-keeping other than cameras and “computer vision”? Things like Lidar don’t work for this because lidar can’t see lane markers. The only way to do it is with cameras.
Both. You can use both LiDAR and optical teaming, the technologies complement each other so you don’t fall for a Looney-Tunes ass painted wall, while the camera covers the one-dimensional recognition that LiDAR can’t.
[Tesla] removed radars from its vehicle lineup and even deactivated already installed radars in existing vehicles. This strategy has not yet been worth it since Tesla’s systems are still stuck at level 2 driver assist systems.
I have this on my Honda Fit for fuck's sake.
FSD? Fake Self Driving? False Self Driving? F#@& Says Driver?
Tesla is the Fyre Festival of automotive manufacturers, except in this case Billy has managed to keep the kite in the air for an astonishingly long time.
Buy from a con-man, get conned. Whoop-de-doo-de-doo.
Isn't Supervised Full Self-Driving an oxymoron? How can it be both Supervised and Full Self-Driving?
Fully man... fully.
The actual answer: It should be Level 4 autonomy. It is capable of full self driving, but only in certain conditions.
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Do note that Tesla autopilot is actually only SAE level 2, so it's just a straight up lie :)
How can it be both Supervised and Full Self-Driving?
It is not all the same.
You are full.
The car is self driving.
Tesla's interns in India are supervising both you and the car.
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No it’s not.
It fully drives itself, but legally you need to “supervise” it. It’s called that because of the laws around driving a car.
It can't be both. It's not self-driving. That's just what they call it to oversell it. I'm assuming they had to add the "Supervised" part for legal reasons.
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Class action goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I’m sure there’s some bullshit fine print about binding arbitration. It’s so cool that corporations can just say “we waive your fundamental rights because we feel like it” and it’s just…legal. Greatest country on earth.
Companies can say whatever they want in their fine print but it’s not legally binding. If you want to do a class action over this, go for it.
No, that’s literally not how binding arbitration works in the US.
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Snake oil salesman.
VW where rightly punished for Dieselgate yet seems like the Texan is getting away with it (again). I also blame the US media. Remember to this date Tesla has never spent a cent advertising in America, their entire hype machine has been fuelled by sites like The Verge (until they eventually woke up a few years back - by which point Tesla had already sold gazillions of shares and took customers deposits). This is why we need real journalism more than ever, the bodies that regulate these cowboys are no longer fit for purpose.
I hope every single person who has, or ever will, buy a cybertruck a lifetime of misery and misfortune
May they stub their toe on every step for the rest of their life
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This tesla coil is a downward spiral!
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