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A combination shot would make it easier for people to get vaccinated against Covid and the flu at the same time.

Moderna’s combined Covid and flu shot outperformed the existing standalone vaccines for both viruses, according to the results of a phase 3 clinical trial published Wednesday in theJournal of the American Medical Association

The vaccine uses the same messenger RNA technology as Moderna’s approved Covid vaccine.(There are no approved mRNA-based flu shots.)

The trial, funded by Moderna, included more than 8,000 adults ages 50 and older who were enrolled in October and November 2023. For people ages 50 to 64, the new vaccine was compared to Moderna’s Covid vaccine and the flu shot Fluarix. For people 65 and older, it was compared to the Covid vaccine and a different flu shot, called Fluzone, which is a stronger dose typically given to older adults. The trial participants either got the existing shots, or the new combination vaccine plus a placebo shot. (This way, both groups got two injections.)

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[–] gearheart@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

So... Whats this about covid shot causing heart problems? Propaganda or true?

I imagine having full COVID causes more heart and lung problems than the shot ever would.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

Yes.

It has reportedly caused myocarditis in some people, and they generally recover.

However:

for every 100 000 vaccinated, compared to about four more cases of myocarditis we have 56 fewer hospitalizations, 13.8 admissions to intensive care and 0.6 fewer deaths.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9653149/

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

... unless you are in a country with a crazy antivaxxer at the helm of public health.

[–] letsgo@lemm.ee 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Well, fortunately they don't get to dictate the health policies of advanced nations.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

That's what I'm most glad about.

[–] uawarebrah@sh.itjust.works 54 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I can’t wait. I love Vaccines. Science is truly amazing.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago

The closest things to miracles we can actually do! Preserving probably millions of lives every year. It used to be normal to have a bunch of kids and just have many of them die or get crippled early in live due to child illness.

Fun fact: in Vietnam, after they kicked out the French, they changed all the French street names with some exceptions. Pasteur was one of those exceptions.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I know right? We need more comments like this to counter all the anti-vax bullshit.

I'm not just neutral on vaccines, I think they're fucking amazing and I want more.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I don't think we're going to find antivaxxers on Lemmy.

[–] nieceandtows@programming.dev 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not antivax but I'm suspicious of these 'subscription' vaccines which don't eradicate the disease but only succeed in helping them mutate every year so that they can keep lining their pockets. Don't we have the scientific advancements to eradicate flu instead of playing a profitable cat and mouse every year? I'm from India, and was very surprised to hear about the annual flu shots when I first came to the US. May be I'm just cynical, and there is just no way to truly eradicate flu accounting for its mutations.

[–] GoodLuckToFriends@lemmy.today 0 points 9 hours ago

‘subscription’ vaccines which don’t eradicate the disease but only succeed in helping them mutate every year

Alright... I'm trying to be nice here, but what exactly do you know about vaccines, and more importantly, viruses?

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago

Ugh, there seems to be one in this very thread. So sick of them (no pun intended).

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

they are all still shilling on reddit, youtube, ,,,etc.

[–] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 76 points 1 day ago (11 children)

“Immunologically, what’s happening in each cell is they’re acting as if they’ve been infected with both viruses, and so your immune system is going to respond and make the type of inflammation that you would if you had flu or Covid or both simultaneously,” he said.

This will 100% be taken out of context by anti-vaxx crowds.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

It's nothing new, though. Vaccines have always worked like this - make your body go through the motions without problematic invasive organisms.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago

Nah those people think covid is the flu and isnt a big deal

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 12 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Terrible explanation as well.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 16 hours ago

they should call it bivalent vaccine, since its 2 in 1.

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[–] fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Does this mean we're still getting a flu shot this year in the US? Last I heard RFK cancelled everything for them

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 16 hours ago

the current flu season is almost ending, i heard the next vaccine/season is around september

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Totally gonna get it anyway but I'm not looking forward to my body throwing a 24h shitfit over it - I usually get what they call a VIGOROUS immune response from either one alone (not every year though, this last year's flu shot was actually 100% fine for some reason). One time I was an hour late on my Motrin-Tylenol rotation and the symptoms peaked 15 minutes or so after I got that delayed dose down and I just remember laying on my husband's lap and being so tired and fatigued and my bones were aching everywhere and I couldn't stop shivering and I must have just passed out because I remember suddenly waking up and feeling completely fine again. It's completely benign and controllable with over the counter medication (and undoubtedly better than catching the actual flu / COVID) but it suuucks.

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[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Not if the brain worms have anything to say about it

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