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Germany’s centre-Right Christian Democratic Union (CDU) party and the centre-Left Social Democrats (SPD), which are holding coalition talks, have proposed a law that will block people with multiple extremism convictions from standing in elections.

https://archive.ph/yNQwE

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[–] oftheair@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Wake us up when it's "have".

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 4 points 13 hours ago

They're not gonna

[–] eveninghere@beehaw.org 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

A similar system has been there to prevent Nazism rise. Sadly, AfD and other right wing parties found a loophole a decade ago.

[–] oftheair@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, sadly there is only one way to defeat Nazis and it's not easy or liked by most.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

They know too well what happens when you let these fuckers get power.

[–] Disaster@sh.itjust.works 6 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Then they'll ban far left politicians from running.

Then they'll ban anyone they don't like.

And eventually, they'll ban everyone who isn't them.

Right wing lunatics are repulsive in almost every sense, but this isn't the way you beat them. When you put the machinery in place to do something like this, it will inevitably be abused in the opposite direction in future.

[–] misteloct@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

It's much harder to be abused when you ban the only party abusing it.

[–] gazter@aussie.zone -1 points 12 hours ago

It's pretty hypocritical. Banning people from running in elections is about as far right as you can get.

The left-right divide is not a straight line, it's a full circle.

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 5 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

The big issue with any form of attempted suppression will not suddenly sway their voters. It would be much smarter to not give people a reason to fall for populists.

But that would be too easy, I guess.

[–] Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Nope, if the AfD gets banned, the entire structure and funding crumbles. It will take decades to build up this kind of Nazi momentum.

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip -3 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

First of all, no, that's wrong. The AfD got to where they are in 12 years, and that was from 0 - do you really think it would take them another 10 years to get to the point where they are now?

Second of all, it STILL would not convince the people that the AfD is wrong and they would just fall for the next right-wing populist party. So even if it would work, it would only be a temporary solution to a major issue.

[–] Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

First of all, no. They won't exist and can't establish anything similar if the party gets forbidden. They won't be able to do shit.

Second of all, there is no next right wing populist party like that.

That's the whole reason to ban a party.

The issue being Germany. Country who commited genocide should lose their right to exist. Totale RΓΌckverdummung now

[–] gazter@aussie.zone 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

It's like banning marijuana and then expecting people to just not do it.

[–] BenjiRenji@feddit.org 1 points 12 hours ago

While restricting other pain medication.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 23 hours ago

Does this have more backing than the motion to ban the AfD entirely did?

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 day ago

Yes we could, but the inner security is stalling the investigation and the conservatives and liberals think they could get the nazi votes and lean heavily into the rethorik. Yeaaah doesnt work out. Never did

[–] Rawdogg@lemm.ee 1 points 20 hours ago

genocide supporting germanys already facist enough, I wouldnt trust them bringing laws of supression.

[–] Spaniard@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

The CDU thinks they will get their votes but they won't.

[–] segabased@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This absolutely needs to be a thing in every country. Ban far right parties, ban far right media

Considering the CDU could be considered a far right party themselves, they just wanna eliminate their competition, so i wouldn't get my hopes up.

They literaly had an election poster with the slogan "You don't have to vote for the AfD to get what you want. There is a democratic alternative: the CDU!".

As long as privately owned press and corporate social media algorithms try to shift the overton window as far right as it can go that's not gonna happen.

[–] Metz@lemmy.world 58 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I love how the commenters on that page hating all on the "far-left", despite the left has exactly nothing to do with that idea. dumb fucks as far one can see.

[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 days ago

It's classic whataboutism and trying to draw false equivalencies to muddy the waters. They want to put everyone else on defense about the decision to ban Nazis by making you waste time explaining why someone else isn't a Nazi.

To sum up: fuck them. Nazis are bad. Please continue punching them, both metaphorically, legally, and physically as needed to keep them in their hidey holes.

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[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 104 points 2 days ago (13 children)

This will 100% be used to suppress left politicians.

Just ban the fucking AfD already.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Do it. Honestly I'm a little surprised you didn't do it 80 years ago

[–] kungfuratte@feddit.org 12 points 1 day ago

In a way we did. Anticonstitutional parties are generally not allowed. The problem is that courts and judges must be absolutely convinced that a party is anticonstitutional to actually ban them.

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[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 112 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Maybe also consider bribery convictions and we might get rid of a few CDU/CSU politicians as well πŸ™ƒ

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