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[–] x00z@lemmy.world 18 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

TikTok’s valuation remains contested, with estimates varying from US$20 billion ($31.8 billion) to more than US$300 billion, depending on whether its algorithm is factored in.

The algorithm increases the price by more than $280 billion. And what kind of algorithm? One that changes its high based on how you interact with it, to always try and get your dopamine flowing to keep you interacting longer. If it were a real substance, it would be the most addictive drug to ever exist.

[–] gwilikers@lemmy.ml 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Wtf, do proprietary algorithms actually cost this much?

[–] Pirata@lemm.ee 10 points 10 hours ago

I mean, have you seen how effective Tik Toks one is?

[–] El_Azulito@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago

Oh thank God, I thought the economy was about to collapse or something.

[–] doug@lemmy.today 79 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Cool, another app I won’t download and will look sideways at whoever does.

If I see its userbase consists of gen z and younger I will be very disappointed.

[–] yoshisaur@lemm.ee 53 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sorry but you're 100% going to be disappointed

[–] doug@lemmy.today 24 points 22 hours ago

You’re right, I should set my expectations now.

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 46 points 21 hours ago

He is really so dumb

[–] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 31 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Wasn't the whole thing about China scooping up loads of data?

So give a copy of that data to one of the worlds largest advertiser/online markets and license behavioural data from the "baddies". Yeah, that'll fix everything.

Everybody loses.

[–] small44@lemmy.world 11 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Wasn't the whole thing about China scooping up loads of data?

No

[–] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (4 children)

If not user data and network security concerns, what? Why the ban/sale song and dance?

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 13 points 21 hours ago

People were opposing the Gaza genocide which is a joint American isreali project

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It's about content delivery, i.e. the CCP having direct control over what content (i.e. propaganda) is sent to Americans on the platform via their proprietary algorithm (with all the source code heavily guarded in mainland China).

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 5 points 16 hours ago

Controlling people's media experience to push political propaganda that helps powerful people and harms individuals - that seems really shitty.

I can't think of any app developer or political party who would do that.

(This is an attempt at surrealist humor.)

[–] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 2 points 21 hours ago

Also money, which are just political points in tangible/fungible format

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 2 points 20 hours ago

Control over what messages can be removed?

[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 17 hours ago

It was about the weaponization of the algorithm whereby China could incite Americans to act against the nation in a time of crisis or war.

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Don't fumble this loops. Now is the moment.

[–] OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world 17 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Loops...kind of sucks. I get the point of it, but I tried using it like 15 minutes a day for a couple weeks to get used to it, but the features are lacking and the content is...well it's filled with people who would abandon tiktok and other apps, so, it's kind of boring.

Not in a 'there's no brainrot' way, in a 'this is the third video in a row of just random AI slop and then it's just some dude filming a tree for 20 seconds'.

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 15 hours ago

Bootstrapping is definitely going to be an issue. There was news they are supposed to have federation working and released tomorrow. Right now there's not even a client in the play store so I haven't bothered with it.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

People bitch about the algorithm but it's actually pretty nice having things you're more likely to enjoy come to you than having to try and hunt them down with nothing but a very poor search function.

I want it to recommend me shit I would probably enjoy; I just don't want it to recommend me shit in an attempt to brainwash me with their agenda. Barring that, get a better search function. Utilize tags and categories. Allow users to tag others' videos because you can't expect the uploader to think of every possible connection it could have.

I want to like Loops, but it's 90% random nature shots that don't need to be videos and finding anything else is a PITA.

[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 22 points 21 hours ago

Surely US investors won't harvest data and/or enshittify the product!

[–] MagicalAbyss@lemm.ee 2 points 15 hours ago

Honestly, I don't who would be the better owner of Tik Tok at this point..

[–] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago