Ask Lemmy

Usually they are lying. It means they hate poor people.

Raging asshole.

My friend who managed to be as right as it could even be in a political compass test which I thought was impossible, the man was a hyper capitalist

Housing and human rights matter and we should stop spending so much money on bombing houses and killing people.

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They don't pay attention to the world around them.

To an extent, you can make an argument for each individually. But they don't mix. After a while, you'd be a walking contradiction. For a fun *exercise, try to imagine the opposite.

It makes sense to me. There's no middle ground anymore and nowhere for these people to go. It sucks. Many people want fiscal conservatism but also support common sense social issues. I don't see what's so weird about this. The people accusing these people of being republicans or bad people are fucking idiots and shows the average understanding of politics/policy on Lemmy.

Edit: To clarify, I'm not saying that this describes me. Just that i totally understand it.

"I don't like being held responsible for the outcomes of the fiscal policies I fully support"

"I'm an upper middle class asshole but Republicans are terrible company and won't smoke weed with me"

Depends on if they mean capital C conservative or not

I think the person saying it wants to avoid family or acquaintances giving them shit for not sharing their political views.

Most of my family is very conservative stereotype vile people. I've heard that exact phrase from the few left leaning relatives as they try to wigle out of unconfortable conversations. I myself am the black sheep that just tells the repugnicans that their views disgust me.

They believe in the social policies of the Democrats and the financial policies of conservatives?

I mean I would ask follow up questions but at face value that would be what they meant no?

I think "You're a fucking liar".

They pine for the Blue Dogs and haven't updated their policy preferences since the early 90's.

Me as an ESL being utterly confused by people's replies when apparently I understand "conservative" as per Merriam Webster dictionary definition 2.a "marked by moderation or caution"

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C-c-c-conservative combo-breaker!

Edit: Sorry, I just wanted to say that. But I do think that falls under right wing with a sprinkle of social moderate leftism but even so, the debate of "can gays have the same rights as all of us" takes away from the ultimate leftist pov of "we should all have better material conditions as a class, including minorities".

Edit 2: and fiscally conservative is ofc "you keep whatever pennies you may or may not have, I got money Idgaf I'm not giving it away" which is the misunderstood antithesis of the concept of the far left.

"I like pot and hookers and pretend I'm better at managing money than you."

these words are all broad strokes. without specific examples, i'll just put it as lip service and move on

nod and say "okay" or "cool brah"

-- my head

In the U.S. "fiscal conservatism doesn't exist" so I hope you are voting against the hate mongers and trying to reform their opposition into balancing the budget (difficult when the hate mongers keep fucking the tax code in favor of the ultra-rich).

I am socially liberal and with my personal budget, fiscally conservative. Government money? Different priorities, plenty of stuff would be cheaper when we pool our money like that, so I'm not sure what fiscally conservative means. My gut reaction is that this person isn't socially liberal because regressive government fiscal policies harm the population, you can't really split it out like that. I guess it's someone who doesn't care who you marry or how you dress but also doesn't care if the schools are any good or if there is any enforcement of the rights to do the socially liberal things.

Assuming that the person saying that is an American, I think that they don't understand economics and probably aren't as socially "liberal" as they might like to think they are ... or they haven't thought that hard about either topic. I think that based on the numerous people I've heard say that to me in the past.

It's fine to not really have thought about these things that much. Not understanding economics isn't a moral failing either. The people preaching about the economy usually have an agenda that isn't well-served by accurately describing economics and it can be hard to know where to find good information. I would rather hear "You know, I think those are important topics but I'm not sure where I stand on them yet" though.