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[–] Cocopanda@futurology.today 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When I saw this title. I thought another YouTube hardware advocate turned their back on Louis and started an anti-consumer group to fight off policy debate that Louis does. My brain is wild.

[–] biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Same but I thought Louis had a brother who became evil for some reason 😭

[–] Cocopanda@futurology.today 1 points 3 hours ago

Me too! I was like. Who is this brother? How have we not met him!

[–] drascus@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Man I've had a brother printer so long because of their Linux support this is so annoying

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[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 64 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sad to hear Louis is having family issues

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

Took me three tries to figure out what was happening, then I was sad.

[–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 137 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Framework printer.

Make it happen.

dude I would pay gold for that

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not saying they couldn't/shouldn't but printers are a nightmare hellscape and it's a miracle, mostly of HP's marketing department, that they're a household object.

[–] fishy@lemmy.today 14 points 2 days ago

Back before everyone had maps on their phone, printing MapQuest maps was fantastic. This was the early 00's though and we all had money to burn still.

[–] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

sorry maybe I missed a memo, people are still printing things.. like, on paper?

[–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I personally don’t, on the off chance I do need to print something I do it at work.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 100 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Brother sucks now!?

Truly, this is the canary in the coal mine moment.

Nah, that time has long passed. Brother is probably less bad than many of its competitors, but that doesn't make it good.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's just capitalism. Don't make it more then what it is.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 113 points 2 days ago (21 children)

It's funny how far ahead 3d printers are in terms of consumer experience, everything is open, everything works and the tech is like 300 times more complex.

2D printer companies should be shamed to death.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Over time as 3D printers go from tinkerer's toy to household staple, I'd expect them to become more locked down and anti-consumer.

[–] CandleTiger@programming.dev 72 points 2 days ago

Bambu is working on it already — can’t print unless you’re connected to the internet and send your files through their server, can’t connect to the printer with other slicers besides their slicer.

They had to walk that back some; there is now a “developer mode” where old standard functionality is still exposed, but they’re clearly working as hard as they can to turn it shitty.

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

They're actually behind. 3D printers are a much newer industry. Most industries start out super open, competitive and collaborative. This speeds up development to consumer-grade products. Eventually one or two companies gain sufficient marketshare to start enforcing anti-consumer shitfuckery. Look at the recent drama with Bambu printers and you'll find that's exactly what's happening. It's a tale as old as time.

Framework actually trolled us into thinking they were going to release a printer but instead they went into a market segment where everything was already modular, repairable and upgradable and gave us something that was not, at all. But hey, they gotta capitalize on the AI nonsense too, I guess?

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[–] paf@jlai.lu 34 points 2 days ago (7 children)

This is mainly because consumer 3d printer have been developped by 3d printing enthusiast first and not a company, Prusa which was leader for some time used a lot of open sources project to build their printers. As it's getting mainstream as time goes by more and more companies shows up with closed sources project sadly.

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[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 158 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Damn, Brother was the only company left I was happy to blind purchase from by name alone.

[–] nyandere@lemmy.ml 32 points 2 days ago

Brother's been anti-consumer for at least 5 years now. Not sure why people are just learning about it now.

Brother blocking 3rd party toner was the primary reason why I went with Canon back in 2020.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I rarely use a printer now that my kids are in college. When it dies, I had a choice between laser printer, Brother inkjet, or none. “None” is now my first choice

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 days ago (6 children)

That's what we did.

For the few pages we need to print, I can use the machine at the library for $0.10/page.

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[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 58 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Do we really need to crowd fund a FOSS printer? Really?

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 71 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

You actually can’t sell third-party printers legally, because all printers will include an ink fingerprint which can be traced back to that specific printer. So if someone prints a ransom note or counterfeits cash with it, the FBI will be knocking on their door by the end of the day.

There’s literally a certification process to be allowed to sell printers, and one of the biggest criteria for that certification is agreeing to maintain that fingerprint database. One of the other big criteria is that the printer needs to be able to recognize and refuse to print images of cash, to prevent counterfeiting. If you try to print an image of a dollar bill, the printer’s firmware will refuse to continue the print job. The issue is that this certification process also ensures there’s a de facto near duopoly on printers, which leads to BS like HP making it increasingly difficult to use affordable ink. They can be blatantly anti-consumer, because they’re protected from any competition.

There’s a reason HP hasn’t already been priced out by some cheap Chinese competitor who is able to undercut the competition. And it’s not because of the difficulty in manufacturing or the price of components. It’s because no other companies are allowed to sell printers.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 20 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Inside the US, sure. That just means you don't get the cool FOSS printer.

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[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago

Welp, I guess that pen plotter I built last year is going to be my full time printer

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 41 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Now i had to put on the in-ears, hook up to phone to.... listen to a guy talking. -_-

Short summary: after he got a firmware update, the MFC 3750 of Louis Rossman prints in worse quality with aftermarket ink.

Click the wiki link

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[–] eric5949@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Great, brother are the only ones I'll still buy.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 67 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I no longer have any corporate relationships that aren't either apprehensive, strained, or downright antagonistic.

It's us versus them now and they've give their last shits. It's feeling like every company is a cable company now.

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[–] tyrant@lemmy.world 93 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Are there no good guys left?

[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago

Ironic username, but no, there are none righteous

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[–] singletona@lemmy.world 78 points 2 days ago (1 children)

...I remember Brother intnetionally making their stuff VERY user servicable.

Wha happen

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 83 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] not_amm@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm glad there's a printer service close to where I live, I can go there and print every page for cents. There's also one on my faculty, more expensive, but still affordable. I only use my HP printer/scanner to scan documents, ink is expensive as hell.

[–] Viri4thus@feddit.org 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Capitalism is the breeding ground of parasitism. The incentive structures needs to change. Good corporate governance and long term sustainability need to trump short term turnover and fiduciary role to always go up. As it exists, corporate incentive structures promote leadership by psychopaths that will go to the utmost consequence to drive the last cent out of their customers. This is especially true in the US, which by virtue of competition, metastasises to the entire western world.

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