It was tho there has to be a line. Feet stuff is literally a fetish.
this post was submitted on 26 Feb 2025
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Per the original article:
Update: After this article was published, Bluesky restored Kabas' post and told 404 Media the following: "This was a case of our moderators applying the policy for non-consensual AI content strictly. After re-evaluating the newsworthy context, the moderation team is reinstating those posts."
Wait, you mean to tell me this meme didn't have the full context included? Am I to believe that I shouldn't take memes seriously and get into fights on the internet with strangers?!
Newsworthy context?
It was playing on all the screens in a govt. building for 5 minutes. The staff didn't know how to stop it so someone was running around manually unplugging screens. I'd say that's pretty newsworthy
In essence i agree but in context of the strategy of flooding the media i cant help but feel like for every something like this, which is funny and In some way hopeful but not a ongoing major issue we are missing something else.
It was playing on a ton of government TVs and no one knew how to turn it off. That leads to some articles.
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that's kinda understandable tbh
You're right and I hate it. The rich and powerful should have fewer protections. Not more
Everyone should be protected from having their consent violated, regardless of how despicable of a human they are. Human rights extend to all. The right to consent is non negotiable. We should just guillotine them instead. Quick and painless, but gruesome enough to set a good example.
I agree with you, but I wish I didn't. I don't want to have empathy for these horrible people
I find it becomes more palatable if you see it as not setting a bad precedent for human rights, or defining who counts as human, rather than empathy for the parasites
We can't post to sucking videos, but he can spew hatred and lies? And his videos of Trump Gaza? Makes sense.
He never posts on bluesky. That kind of hatred gets you banned there as well. The standards are there.
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Some people get off on toe sucking and porn is produced featuring it. If you put someone else's face in porn that they didn't consent to be in you're on the wrong side of ethics.
Those horrible bastards are more wrong and should be stopped, but nonconsentual porn isn't right.
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The question is how quick they’re to remove non consensual porn of the rich and powerful.
Middle schoolers are doing this shit to harass each other and it destroys lives. Lots of platforms are pretty negligent.
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The non consensual part would be my poor eyes seeing it but I’m not on Bluesky because it’s a corporate imitation of federation
Is it? I thought it was just an imitation of Twitter. In what way does it even pretend to be federated?
You can spin up your own Bluesky instance
...which is still managed by the Bluesky central server and can't connect to peer instances without that server.
That's not quite true afact.
There are 3 types of servers:
- Personal data server (actually hosts your post)
- Relay (aggregates posts from all PDSs, responsible for federation of PDSs)
- App views (generates feeds from the relay)
Bluesky hosts the only relay I'm aware of, because relays are very expensive to host. But afaict anyone can host a relay.
So if we're to describe it:
PDSs are nations states
Relays are the federation of those nation states
App views are like the ambassadors of the federation.
Except that PDSs can be part of multiple federations, and app views can be ambassadors for multiple federations. Ok not a great analogy.
Can two relays communicate with each other?
I don't think so?
But a single PDSs can talk to multiple relays.
And I think an app view can talk to multiple relays (or at least switch between them)
So Bluesky doesn't have any federated servers, and couldn't federate with itself even if there were other servers.
It's not fediverse.
It's not Fediverse™ because it's not activitypub.
But that doesn't make it not federated
Just because it uses a different mechanism to achieve federation you're going to say that it doesn't count as federation? That's wild.
PDSs get federated by relays.
You can have multiple relays which means you have multiple federations. This is similar to how the Fediverse ends up with pockets completely defederated from each other.
Except that a PDS can be in multiple relays (federations) which the Fediverse can't do.
You're right that currently there is no meaningful federation because there is only one relay, and it's a problem that the cost is so prohibitive. But to say that it isn't a Fediverse is kinda disingenuous.
Just because it uses a different mechanism to achieve federation you’re going to say that it doesn’t count as federation? That’s wild.
No. I'm going to say it doesn't count as federation because it doesn't achieve federation.
Actually, we need some new language to describe what Bluesky is. Federations are geopolitical alliances between equals. But Bluesky instances are centralised, with one relay acting as a truth source for many PDS servers. So to extend the analogy with a hierarchical geopolitical alliance... well that's an empire. Bluesky is an empire. Bluesky is designed with an imperial mechanism. Bluesky is imperialised. That's the new word for what Bluesky is.
You're being intentionally obstinate. You keep implying that you can't host your own relay, to which many PDSs (that also link to other relays) can't link.
With bluesky, people choose what federations to join by selecting which relays their PDSs will join.
The analogy of geopolitical federation is cute, but that's an analogy, it's not actually what federation is when talking about technology. You seem upset that bluesky achieves federation with a different architecture, and idk why you'd be upset about that, or even care
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How else would you pretend to be federated besides saying you're federated when you aren't?
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Don't hurt the poor fascists' feewings, y'all!
Womp womp, that didnt take long. Only downhill for Bluesky from here on.
Relax they put it back up
What does that change? Its about the system and their ability to do so from a central control point. Bluesky was doomed before it started with how it is set up and governed.
Exactly. At least with Mastodon and all Fediverse platforms you don't have some overlord who can just remove anything on a whim.
Bluesky was never the solution to the Twitter problem.
Yes you do? If the moderator or admin of your instance doesn't like something, it's gone.
Sure you could post to another instance, but the line of posting to another instance or posting to another service is a thin one.
I fully agree that Bluesky is far from the distributed haven it might claim to be, but just because it makes a decision that any Fediverse instance might have made doesn't mean it's over.
Bluesky has problems, but those problems are still within the realm of fixable. Fediverse alternatives may be better, but Bluesky is still fine.
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The fact it was taken down tells you everything you need to know about BS.
All it means is that one moderator made a dumb decision. But I'm sure that's never been a problem on the fediverse.
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Its not explicit and it is a public figure AND a current news story. Imo, it seems like poor judgement.
Which is probably why the decision was reverted.
Its not explicit
I could see people going either way on that. I think it's safe to say few people want to see that and the vast majority don't want to see it more than once.
it is a public figure AND a current news story.
true
Imo, it seems like poor judgement.
Probably, but it's also pretty understandable. Generally how that kind of stuff is handled in media is to report on it, link to it and tell people what's in the link, let them decide.
How do we really know it was nonconsensual though?
Just the doubt is enough to not do it. Unless you ask the same question about the myriad of porn videos which circulate the internet
I guess this normalizes foot fetishes. They’re gonna be fucked when people start sexually fetishizing people who are fully clothed in photographs
Start?
Yeah, I live in Utah and that shit has been going for years here. Thirsty people gonna thirst.
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Would the fediverse be able to handle something like this differently?
It just depends on the instance you're on. The tankie instances, it's gone.
Yea, but users on the tankie instances would still be able to see it in their federated feed, right? I think the majority of federated instances would need to all agree to censor it.
Huh? I can still see it.
Edit: oh I see. One of the posts that included the video was deleted for nonconsensual explicit content and then restored after users protested.
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