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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There are people whose entire modus operandi is to not give a shit about others in their choices and actions, apologize when challenged about it and carry on doing the same.

Their "apologizing" is just a confrontation-avoidance technique, not a genuine expression of regret.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Oh you've met my "supervisor" Dave?

Why is "supervisor" in quotes? You'd know if you knew Dave.

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago
[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 118 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wholesome Omniman weirds me out.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

This part was so well done. Building up the speedster as someone that experiences time at an accelerated rate compared to humans then showing this where 2 seconds must have been like years of agony for him.

Really tragic and brutal.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Have you read the comics? I have both seen the show and read the comics. If you have just seen the show it might be strange but when the show gets to the end or if you read the comics it makes sense. It's not as strange after all.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

And in that statement you've answered your first question

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[–] Lennnny@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

My dad would always say "don't say sorry, DO sorry". The apology will be present in your words and actions.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Could have picked a better father...

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A better father also wouldn't mix up "then" and "than"

[–] GrammarPolice@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I didn't even notice that smh my head

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Username checks out.

[–] RQG@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago (11 children)

That's what I teach my kids. If you apologize and do it again it doesn't count as an apology. An apology is a promise to do better next time.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think that's just one notch above what's necessary.

An apology is a promise to [try to] do better next time.

You might fail again, but it doesn't mean you did the wrong thing, necessarily. But if you didn't even try, then 🖕🖕

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, as a kid I had serious struggles with certain things and my parents eventually started getting angry at my apologies. That was a parenting decision of theirs that went quite poorly for me.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

parenting decision of theirs

What do you mean their decision was? Did they make you promise to do better next time? Curious, as I'm a parent. 😅

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Not believing that I was trying to do better. I was suffering from adhd (diagnosed) and depression symptoms so my tripping points were largely in my own head.

The fact is they didn't know how to help. The fact is I was a teenager going through shit I didn't have the words for. We were all lost and confused. But like clockwork every report card came with a lecture to the point of me sobbing, swearing I'd do better, and eventually self harming to make it stop. But I'd be told that I had meds so I can't blame my mental illness, and my parents had it too and no meds so they know I'm able to do it. Eventually my father got to the point of loudly giving up on me every semester.

Idk if that helps, but yeah, it was bad enough that as an adult I've had a few full on flashbacks to that time, and had to spend quite a bit of effort on healing from it.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Thank you for sharing. I hope this helps others who are going through the same thing, or are putting their kids through the same thing.

And I'm actually so, so sorry you had to go through that. I can't imagine the anxiety. I love you, ~~man~~ person. You're strong. 💯

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah my parents definitely tried, and a lot of their failures weren't their fault, but others were. I'm 30 now so I'm long past the stage of blaming them for shit just to blame them. They had a lot of issues individually and even more as a couple.

So yeah, if you have preexisting trauma or mental health issues it's probably a good idea to get help for them earlier rather than later into being a parent. If you've tried everything and nothing works and your kid swears they're trying too start looking for new things, but also love and accept your child failure and all. And dont let your love for your kid slowly fade and eventually disown them. It will ruin your relationship with all your kids even if you don't realize it, but I suspect that's not a thing most parents are at risk of doing lol.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Very good advice. I think it sounds like you came out of all this with a lot of insight along with the inevitable damage/baggage. And that's honestly a bit of a win. That's awesome.

Yeah, this kept tripping me up. I tried to be better but was always falling short and kept getting called out on promises not fulfilled. So I just stopped apologizing.

What I'm trying to say is, if a kid keeps failing to deliver on those promises constantly the parent might need to make a change in there. If not then all is dandy.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What about paying a small fine which is a fraction of the profits you made from the crime?

[–] lloydxmas@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Username checks out

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[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I tried teaching my mom that and that did not go well.

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

the way I've always put it is you have an idea of who you want to be and you have to work to be that person every day and it's okay to fall it's okay to fail but it's important that you keep trying.

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[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's why I never apologize!

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"I'm sorry, that's just the way I am!"

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago

"I know what I am" - princess pony head

[–] BilliamBoberts@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This is true, but unfortunately, some people dont understand this and think an apology is a 'get out of jail free' card to do whatever they want, and no one can get mad at them.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Likewise, if someone genuinely apologizes and tries to make it right, stop shitting on them. Too many people view apologies as weakness and admitting fault for events that are sometimes out of your hands.

[–] BilliamBoberts@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

You're right, I should have mentioned I am referring to the same repeated bad behavior and people who keep apologizing for it again and again as if that makes it all better, rather than making meaningful change. An apology is meaningless without action to back it up.

[–] Shou@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

And you bet that forgiveness benefits you the most. It doesn't. If someone says sorry rarely, never changes, and you are taught to keep being compassionate... you are going to lose your ability to care about people. Better to stay alert, because that person will hurt you again.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

think an apology is a 'get out of jail free'

Well, 'forgive' and 'forget' aren't the same. ;-)

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't think this meme format is adequate for the contents...

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

On the contrary, one of my favorite meme mutations is the subversion of the intent of the original media or meme itself. Like the "can you please call HR", "hello human resources" one. Or bonehurtingjuice on the whole.

[–] WagyuSneakers@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

There are three critical parts to an apology. You have to feel regret/remorse, accept guilt and make an effort to correct it/make sure it never happens again.

If all three aren't present every time then someone isn't sorry. If they say sorry and don't make it right or make reasonable actions to ensure it doesn't happen again then they are a liar and poor company to keep.

[–] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Unless you work in a customer facing role......then you throw out apologies all over the place to calm people down. Never need to act on the apology. Just need to get through the shift. Management isn't going to change the structures that cause the poor experience anyway.

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago

I used to do that, but I stopped because I’m trying to be less of a people-pleasing doormat in general. Plus people don’t like empty apologies from company reps anyway.. it often led to more hostility. Apologizing also tends to give to the impression that they are right to be pissy whiny assholes, which isn’t something that should be encouraged at all.

Instead, I started saying “I very much understand your frustration; let’s see what we can do to get this resolved for you.” This makes you and the customer (psychologically) a team against the problem, and they are less likely to go off on you.

I definitely stole that tactic from car salespeople. And it works super well.

[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

LOOK WHAT THEY NEED TO MIMIC A FRACTION OF OUR APOLOGIES

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

That's the neat part!

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Assuming we're talking about a friend/acquaintance, a person can be genuinely sorry but sort of be too dim to meaningfully improve their behavior. That said, if they don't at least give a good faith effort to improve then my patience will wear thin and I'll probably want to be around them as little as possible, even if I end up ultimately forgiving them on the emotional side of things.

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