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[-] TheYang@lemmy.ml 18 points 11 months ago

With Ukraine being a breadbasked, I wonder how many fields are unusable.
probably lots. That sucks for a lot of people.

[-] UnverifiedAPK@lemmy.ml -2 points 11 months ago

The specific mine used is effective against people, but known to sometimes not even pop car tires. Absolutely worst case scenario: farmers can run a tractor plow over the fields a few times.

[-] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

They can't mark and track these with GPS? It seems like it would be a smart idea to keep notes on the precise location of every mine, and whether or not it's been removed or exploded. It's not like it's the 1950s, when a landmine's location was a mystery after it was buried. (Or is Russia planting these mines?)

[-] rumbleran@suppo.fi 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They do exactly that in sane countries. Russia just drops them out of airplanes with zero fucks given where they land.

[-] UnverifiedAPK@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago

Tbf Russia's PFM-1 is based off the US' BLU-43. The difference is the US went "Oh wow, this is a really bad situation" and stopped using them half a century ago.

Double tbf: Ukraine also has 5.5 million of these mines themselves.

[-] fidodo@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

The vast majority are from Russia and the ones Ukraine uses are mostly anti tank mines which are less dangerous to individuals while Russia is using a shit ton of anti personnel mines.

[-] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago

Russia is mining too. They don't even tell their own soldiers where their mines are.

[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago

ask russia to track their mines, but make ukrainians suffer is their objective anyway

[-] ilikekeyboards@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Keeping track of the mines location is just an invitation for your opponent to gain a map of all of your troops movements

[-] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

It would be a humanitarian thing to do after a conflict is over. "We're leaving but here is where the mines are."

[-] UnverifiedAPK@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago

If Russia upholds their signing of the Geneva convention they're actually responsible for removing all of their mines after the conflict is over.

But we all know they'll say the mines are either Ukraine's or Wagner's and not remove them.

[-] 14specks@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

You're right, but there's nothing humanitarian about a military conflict.

[-] UnverifiedAPK@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

Putting antennas and batteries in mines increases production cost.

The mine would broadcast it's signal, effectively telling the opposing army exactly where it is so they can disarm it. Effectively rendering mines useless, more of a speed bump than anything.

[-] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago
[-] socsa@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

I am quite eager to hear how this is the EU's fault!

[-] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Fuck it, take Russia and give it to the Ukrainians.

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