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Complete bullshit. This whole, "no he was thanking and giving his heart to the crowd" excuse is such bullshit. There are so many ways to make that gesture.
The amount of hoops people will jump through to cover it up is mind-blowing. When it looks like a salute, when a country says it's a salute, and when Nazis recognize it as a salute, yes, it's a fucking salute.
Hey there, everyone. I'm the center. Go check my history, you'll be disgusted if you're far left.
Yeah... this was not okay. We know what this is in the "center". Fuck Elon Musk.
Yeah, I see John Cleese's Advantages of Extremism skit is still as relevant as ever...
Relevant because it showcases liberals' political illiteracy?
Not throwing any shade at Cleese though, he's one of the few conservatives who was genuinely talented at comedy.
Center here, it was a full blown nazi salute and every other european centrist I know also know it was a full blown nazi salute. We dont want to assosciate with the people saying it wasn't a nazi salute, they are either insanely stupid or undercover nazis.
It was definitely questionable. People saying it's 100% are being unreasonable. There's a large interpretation here.
And calling people names and trying to bully people into accepting your view is disturbing.
He threw his hand out from his heart and said my heart goes out to you. It's definitely questionable.
Center-right, previously strong (not far) right. That was clearly two Nazi salutes done by a drugged out oligarch. There's no way around it.
As a European center, does that put you between the radical far left (community based government, right to eat, right to housing, right to education, medical care for all, meeting and exceeding the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights, etc.) and the radical far right (Monarchy, Totalitarian Oligarchy, the thing that Trump and Musk want, and will have to fight for)?
Or is it centrist as in between Neoliberal and MAGA?
The reason I ask is because here in the states Centrist means the latter, e.g. people who still hate the homeless and expect immigrants to go through (nonexistent for most) legal channels.
I do believe a lot of people -- and the mainstream news media here in the states -- want to believe this is normal and this is fine the way Trump kept wishing on camera COVID-19 was going to just go away on its own, even as CDC discovered enough instances to declare it has infected the community (e.g. the American public) and could no longer be contained via specific isolation.
They are so desperate to for things to be normal that they want to justify the outrageousness as within the threshold of normal any way they can.
I'm not sure, but Trump behaves as if he likes pushing that envelope, much the way he forced Robert Kennedy Jr. to eat McDonalds to assert dominance.
When we say Mangione the 1%, we mean all of them.
By income, right? I like my dentist.
I hate these filthy Neutrals, Kif. With enemies you know where they stand but with Neutrals, who knows? It sickens me.
If I don't survive, tell my wife hello.
Multiple accidents in a row. Accidentally doing the same thing multiple times with a smile on your face. Enthusiastically making a mistake, repeating it, and not commenting about the mistake.
These are all examples of how people act when they make mistakes.
Also accidentally following a ton of Nazi accounts on Twitter and replying 'interesting!' or 'you're absolutely right!' whenever those accounts blame the Jews/globalists/immigrants for anything.
Also saying the afd was the way to save Germany
What exactly is the "context" for doing a full-on nazi salute? Other than to show everyone that you're a nazi?
Because it's not a nazi salute. You guys are acting like Nazis
It's disturbing how aggressive you all are
It's right out of Trump's playbook. You do something outrageous and evil, with just a smidgen of deniability.. it gets them attention. That's what they crave, to lead the news cycle, to be hated by the left but maintain enough deniability that the center and right will still be on your side. This is Trump 101.
That is the fascist playbook. Testing the water to see what you can get away with now while normalising new levels of evil.