Say what you will about the right wing lunatics, they are at least actively trying to take down the establishment. We leftist draw signs and bitch online 😑 me included
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Speak for yourself. If you're doing nothing, that's on you.
Look at Palestine Action in the UK, who have written off weapons factories. That's doing far more to take down 'the establishment' than a poorly-executed suicide bombing. Look at environmentalists sabotaging coal infrastructure, or even Cop City actions. Look at the unions sabotaging the police in my own city.
At least you don't get downvoted for saying it anymore, more progress!
It's not terrorism if they're MAGA as I understand.
Well his manifesto said it wasn’t terrorism after all. No reason to question such a fine upstanding citizen.
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Was probably mad that Musk turned out to be the actual president and not Trump.
Why is there no mention of the term suicide bomber?
Suicide Arsonist at best.
“He loved Trump, and he was always a very, very patriotic soldier, a patriotic American,”
Yeah. Reading the rest of the article (not that I trust the press these days) his version of being an “American Patriot” is “fuck everyone I hate, they can burn” and he really wanted Trump to do that for him. President Musk getting in the way really pissed him off when he finally realized that Trump is just another spineless, vain, wealthy narcissist that DGAF about him.
Saying this as an ex-soldier: The highly trained special forces are just as susceptible to psyops as the people they use them on. Sometimes more so because "if it was used on them, they would know better from experience" as they drink two more scoops of hooah Kool Ade. Nationalism isn't patriotism, and patriotism is earned and not irrevocable.
That soldier was lied to and manipulated, and fell for it.
That soldier was lied to and manipulated, and fell for it.
"Big Trump Supporter" Story checks out.
I’m mostly just worried about the level of training the Green Berets get. This guy clearly didn’t understand how explosives work and made the shittiest most ineffective bomb.
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Sooooo won't be investigated as terrorism got it..... Sigh this country is so corrupt it's not funny
Fucking dumb coward and a dipshit trump voter. Look how dumb you redhats look with trump sucking the brown off the autistic slave owner musk's ass. We have Luigi the fucking stud ceo blaster and yall are a clown car full of traitors and ghouls
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And none of the current Trump supporters will believe that he was Trump supporter or that he had planned this attack. They will instead believe that he was murdered by the deep state.
trump is literally about to be president of the most powerful country in the world with a Red SCOTUS & Congress. Yet, if anything bad happens, MAGA will say it’s the deep state.
Funny thing is, they'd be right but not realize that Trump is a part of it rather than the solution to it.
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I will still wait for more concrete details before I cast judgement, but in the meantime I can say this much:
Many leftist haters of Trump wouldn't go in a Cybertruck to make a statement. They'd probably even refuse to be paid to get in one.
So... there may be a motive.
The wife of the Cybertruck bomber Matthew Livelsberger left him just days before he detonated the vehicle outside the Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas, according to a report.
With a bit more context from some of the texts he made here from here:
https://www.newsweek.com/cybertruck-explosion-matthew-livelsberger-texts-ex-girlfriend-2009064
My entirely premature, editorialized take is that this guy cheated on his wife, or his wife left him due to suspecting as much, he believed his life was ruined, and decided to go out with a bang.
He was a big Trump guy, was a Green Beret for multiple tours of duty, until 2019 when he suffered a traumatic brain injury, he kept working in the Army, most recently as remote and autonomous systems manager stationed in Germany.
Then he went home on leave, his wife leaves him, and 3 days before his death, several days after his wife left him, he texted his previous ex (not his very recently ex wife):
"I rented a Tesla Cybertruck. It's the s**t," read a text to Arritt, obtained by the Denver Gazette.
"I feel like Batman or halo,"
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He apparently shot himself in the head whilst inside the CyberTruck, parked outside of the Trump hotel... which then caught on fire, and the fireworks and fuel cannisters inside the CyberTruck eventually went off as well:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c86wnx174q8o
"I'm comfortable calling it a suicide with a bombing that occurred immediately after," Sheriff McMahill said during Thursday's press conference.
As far as I can tell so far... the actual, specific mechanism that caused of the ignition of the CyberTruck does not appear to have been determined so far, but it was probably by design of Livelsberger.
While the car having fireworks inside of it is possibly coincidentally explained by New Years, fuel cans inside a rented CyberTruck probably signal an intention to go out with a bang.
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So, yeah, summed up, my take is that this notably brain damaged individual, who was a big Trump fan and probably Elon fan as well, who felt like Batman driving around in a Halo warthog in a CyberTruck...
...basically just became suicidal after his wife left him and went on a joyride in a CyberTruck, then game overed himself in spectacular fashion.
The stupid things have had over a half dozen recalls in the last year. You couldn't pay me enough to get in one.
I already feel unsafe when I call a Lyft or Uber and get a Tesla. That alone removes a star.
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When I look at his background. 19 years of military service at the sharp end, does not leave a person "fully whole". The US also has a history of neglecting the mental health of its service members.
This suicide might have more to do with those factors, than politics. The apparent political statement might just have been a final cry for attention.
Further, nobody willingly leaves the military at 19 years. 20 years and you get retirement pay for the rest of your life--19 gets you nothing.
Maybe he had a medical retirement, which is fully possible for any number of reasons, but...
Probably he did something egregious to get kicked out at 19 years. Leaders will often let servicemembers near 20 years retire when they're guilty of wrongdoing (in consideration of the many years served beforehand). To cut short a retirement career is to make an example of a person for doing something awful.
Edit: He was still active duty and stationed in Germany, making my whole comment moot. My bad. That's what I get for not reading the article before commenting ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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Livelsberger, who died in the blast,
Actually, it's a bit more interesting. According to an article that the BBC published, he shot himself in the head while in the car. From his viewpoint, it seems that the blast was just a fancy after-effect.
"Mr Livelsberger's cause of death was suicide from a self-inflicted gunshot wound, according to the Clark County Coroner's office."
No one supports Trump for logical reasons. He's the emotional choice.
When you get emotionally involved, crazy is a small step away
Also pretty easy to be betrayed by Trump: he claims to hold every possible stance on every issue. Then, he acts on only one person's benefit: Trump.
One of the Trump stories I re-post all the time is how he had a lottery where the top prize was dinner with him at the White House. They ran the lottery for months and there was never a single winner.
I once got a reply from a MAGoo saying that this was no different than when another pol sends an email asking you personally to contribute.
You'd think a green beret would be better at blowing shit up
He was likely making a statement and wanted fire and noise more than demolition and death (granted he also probably didn't care if some people around it got hurt). It's pathetic.
Probably, otherwise, why not drive it through the doors into the lobby?
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All of the shooters and this guy have been trump fans. That's the thing about patriotism. If you use it as rhetoric but attack the foundation, the rah rah patriots tend to want to blow your head off.
Gonna be a interesting 4 years
Normal isn't returning after Trump's next four years just like it didn't return in the last four years.
We're already in a new political reality in America. We might as well acknowledge that and start to engage with it.
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Symbolism? There's no well thought out and clear symbol. It's just an asshole who thinks going up in flames "sends a message (jokerMewing.jpg)". A well thought out symbol is more like Luigi Mangione's Deny Defend Depose.
This guy was promised a good life for the simple man by the republicans and he was repeatedly backstabbed, and that made him angry. Yet he stayed with them till the end at which point he couldn't imagine himself not being the MAGA Rambo wannabe he thought himself to be. That's what angry and dumb people do.
Something about all being domestic terrorists...
I don't understand how 7 people got injured. I saw the video, there was no one nearby and the hotel windows didn't break.
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A former Green Beret? Check his military records, the shit for brains must have failed the demolitions course.
'big' Trump supporter
I mean.. let's be honest here, he did drive 12 hours through the night to serve Trump some freshly barbecued pig.
You don't cater like that unless you're a truly big fan.
More proof that magas are just violent psychopaths. Open more insane asylums!
Yeehad.
It's obviously too early to say the motive with 100% accuracy. But based on the timing of the event, and the Trump/Musk connection. It would seem like a Trump supporter who felt betrayed about the H1B visa thing.
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