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The 2024 US presidential election had been widely characterized as one of the most consequential political contests in recent US history. Although turnout was high for a presidential election – almost matching the levels of 2020 – it is estimated that close to 90 million Americans, roughly 36% of the eligible voting age population, did not vote. This number is greater than the number of people who voted for either Donald Trump or Kamala Harris.

More than a month on from polling day, eligible US voters from across the country as well as other parts of the world got in touch with the Guardian to share why they did not vote.

Scores of people said they had not turned out as they felt their vote would not matter because of the electoral college system, since they lived in a safely blue or red state. This included a number of people who nonetheless had voted in the 2020 and 2016 elections.

While various previous Democratic voters said they had abstained this time due to the Harris campaign’s stance on Israel or for other policy reasons, a number of people in this camp said they would have voted for the vice-president had they lived in a swing state.

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Lol this was a 1:1 repeat of 2016.

I voted and sat back as the Dems threw away their election by willingly ignoring their constituents in exchange for AIPAC money.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

the only conclusion is this is the model for both parties into the foreseeable future.

[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So wait, if your state wins, the excess votes don't matter towards the presidential candidate?

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Nope, they just go to the popular vote as bragging rights. It's a stupid system.

[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

i guess it's similar to our system here in canada, however many ridings the party has dictates their position in the house. its really dumb because some reps might be great people, but the leader is a total dingus. I don't know what party i am voting for because i have lost faith in all the parties in my county.

[–] bigpapasmurf12@lemm.ee 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I despise humanity's current timeline. Can it fuck off, please!?

[–] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] bigpapasmurf12@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago
[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Did they interview anyone in a swing state at all, or just people who lived in solid states and suggested that if they lived in a swing state they’d have voted?

The only reasons they gave were Israel and gesture vaguely in the direction of other policies.

Did these non-voters not consider the downballot candidates that dems also lost their asses on?

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world -2 points 6 days ago

"I'm a retarded piece of shit" -all sources

/thread

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 120 points 1 week ago (5 children)

“The Dems are out of touch on social issues, and have tacked too far to the left to appease a minority of progressives.”

Asshole.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 80 points 1 week ago

And ignorant - they fell for the conservative talking points too

[–] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago

And us progressives feel ignored by the Dems. Wild

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago

For those who aren't aware already, "a minority of progressives" means "queer people," specifically trans people.

This asshole is saying the Dems went too far in trying to make things more equal.

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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 58 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

U guys need mandatory voting like what we got here in aus. And by mandatory it doesnt mean u have to pick someone (its ur right to spoil ur ballot) it simply means u have to attend a polling booth.

Voting is a duty not a right

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago (9 children)

We need laws that make it illegal to spread election misinformation. We can't function as a society with this level of manipulation and outright falsities. Nobody knows what is up or down anymore and this is just the start of what AI and propaganda news media are gonna make possible in the very near future.

[–] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Misinformation or misdirection for how to vote or voting practices? The AEC will have you for that.
Misinformation or straight up political lies to convince you to vote for them?
Thats allowed.

In Aus politicians can say whatever they want to get you to vote for them/not for the other parties, but they cannot trick you into filling out your vote cads to vote in a way that you didnt intend.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (47 children)

I didn’t find Harris compelling, just more of the same.

Well you're sure not going to get more of the same now. Good job, shithead.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (7 children)

“What is the point [of voting]?,” he asked. “Aside from a handful of weaponized issues, the parties are nearly identical. They both hate the poor and serve only their donors.”

We can yell at them that the handful of issues should matter enough, or we could actually try to get a popular candidate past the party itself and I to the general.

But shit isn't going to change until we all admit the DNC isn't automatically on our side. I'm more hopeful than I should be for the DNC election in February, but I'm ready to be disappointed.

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 44 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

"What a circus" say eligible voters who didn't vote in the 2024 election:

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[–] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

One guy said this “VP Harris failed to demonstrate she was ethically or intellectually capable of executing the office, repeatedly failing to detail out her policies..." It's infuriating that people continue to believe Harris never detailed her policies despite the fact that all she talked about was policy. All they had to do was pay attention to her and she would talk about her policies, it seems like they just didn't want to even pay attention to her. Or that because she didn't detail alllll of her policies then that wasn't enough. Add on that this person calls her intellectually incapable of talking about her policies, basically calling her stupid and it's just exhausting.

This whole article continues to make me believe in the fundamental problem with Democrat voters which so many people have shown. The democrats have to run the perfect candidate with the perfect policies or the charisma of Obama who promise the world, while the Republicans can run a guy who says immigrants are eating cats and dogs and because the Democratic candidate wasn't perfect, the Republicans win.

And then when the Democrats do promise signficant change and it doesn't immediately happen, Democrat voters punish them for it, they lose the midterms, and any change that was in the process of happening gets stopped dead. But when Republicans promise the world and don't deliver, Republican voters reward them for simply promising it.

"Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line."

[–] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

Institutional vs anti institutional. Dems are institutional and the institution sucks. Trump is a sledgehammer. He promised alot of sledgehammering. Not good, but that's irrelevant. The Dems need to stop protecting the broken system of neo liberal economics that fucking Regan invented and chasing the phantom center right vote.

Aka. swing left or die.

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What if we make not voting an official vote and, if it wins, all the parties have to try again with new candidates?

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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I blame my peers who didn't vote just as much as my peers who voted for Trump for what is to come.

I'm done giving a shit. We had a chance to stop this, and we sat on our ass.

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

All I got from this is that Democrats, progressives, and Americans are fucking absolutely stupid regardless of education level.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 20 points 1 week ago

I live in a blue state but that doesn't mean I'd be justified in believing that I should sit it out. Even if that insane logic about not needing to was valid, there's other shit on the ballot. And even if my vote for or abstaining against an uncontested incumbent is irrelevant, there's still ballot measures that need to be understood.

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