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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 113 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

While giving a pass to the literal crime syndicate about to take over the government.

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[–] Intergalactic@lemmy.world 50 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This country lost moral priorities long long ago

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah when it took perfectly good tea and threw it into the river

[–] Gaspar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Honestly, I know you're probably just joking, but there are several times in recent memory where I've wished that you guys won that one.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago

That's my secret, Captain, I'm always joking.

And hungry.

But mostly joking.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It might honestly have stopped Manifest Destiny.

That, or the increased manpower reserve of America would have let Britain conquer literally the entire world instead of just the parts with spices, and the pressure from Southern states would have kept Britain from outlawing slavery in the Empire.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That's actually pretty straight forward. The other guy is seen as "morally good" so everything he does is also seen as good, even if if flagrantly breaks laws and human rights. Biden is seen as "morally bad" so even the slightest mistake is immediately seen and treated as blasphemy. It's how right wingers see the world as morally good and bad, with laws and justice there just to punish the morally bad. Facts or consistency don't matter.

[–] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I don’t know on what earth even trumps supporters think he’s morally good. Everyone knows he’s an asshole, and for some that’s a feature not a bug.

And biden is morally bad. He could of ended this genocide at any point and probably won the election in the process (or Harris) but nooooo gotta have endless war and liberal tears because they can’t figure out why they lost and are throwing a toddler temper tantrum at anyone who refused to vote for Harris.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

He speaks about their issues and is on their favorite side. Unfortunately that's all it takes for many.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

So essentially you're saying the problem is Dem voters have standards...

And the fix isn't Dem politicians who meet those standards...

Instead you want Dem voters to throw away their standards?

You realize that leaves America with two options that are morally bad?

I don't think you realize just how many votes Dems leave on the table by only aiming to be a little better than Donald fucking Trump.

The standard for a Dem candidate should be about what Dem voters are willing to vote for. Not just being a better choice than the republican. We keep trying it and it keeps not working. So why not try a better candidate who will be a better president?

What's the point in settling for someone less popular with Dem voters because the only other choice is a literal fascist?

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure and look where all the dem voter standards got them.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Wait, you think Biden/Kamala met the standard of Dem voters?

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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Because for whatever reasons, our entire government backs isreal. We don't even get oil from them. I don't know what the deal is.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nukes adjacent to Iran. It's an EU collabo that will never end.

[–] pigup@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Seriously, it's just good ol geopolitics

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[–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That’s not how you criticize Biden! THIS is how you criticize Biden!

Let’s all criticize Biden.

After all we can’t afford to let someone misuse the office of the president.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I have binders full of criticisms. They're more like concepts of criticisms, really. But still, binders of them.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

Why not both?

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Welcome to why singling out Biden and Harris for supporting Israel was so stupid. The entire US establishment supports Israel with few exceptions.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Just wait til the insanity reaches a fever pitch and stays there for four years.

You ain't seen nothin' yet.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

It's not newsworthy when a duck quacks.

No one expected Biden to suddenly stop his support of genocide.

But he made a huge deal about not pardoning his son, to the point where the rest of the party and neoliberal talking heads on network news latched onto it as why Dems are better than Republicans.

Than Joe fucked everyone over by just fucking doing it anyways...

Leaving the rest of the party and the billionaire's talking heads to scramble to explain why Biden was obviously going to do this and it's a nothingburger.

Which is fucking stupid.

Biden fucked the party with this, so the party should have thrown him under the bus:

We do not agree with this pardon, but it's Biden's decision

Is not fucking hard and saves some semblance of the party's integrity

[–] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Joe didn’t fuck anyone over. Trump doesn’t give a shit about precedent, hell pardon whoever he wants just like he did last time he was in office.

I hate joe biden with everything in my soul but I’m glad he pardoned his son. It’s long past due for democrats to take their gloves off and false piety and go muck around in the mud for once.

I think it’s telling that biden can do almost anything right now as a lame duck and does he choose to do anything for the American people? NO! he selfishly helps his son and leaves the rest of us to rot. He could of forgiven student loans, he could of legalized weed, he could of stopped supporting Israel, he could of packed the courts, he could of done a whole bunch of different things that would help us.

But he said it himself when he got elected nothing will fundamentally change which is why Harris lost.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Joe didn’t fuck anyone over.

They spent 9 months saying this proves Dems are better...

If I'm not doing a good job of explaining it, Mondays episode of the daily show even plays a montage of all them doing 180s as soon as Biden announced the pardon...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5BcIHPMAHw

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Party forces a nearly dead old man with a son being personally threatened as a political weapon to step aside

Acts surprised when he moves to protect that son from the incoming fascist state

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

He could pardon people in immigration detention.

He could pardon people with federal marijuana convictions.

He could pardon people on federal death row.

He could pardon Julian Assange, Edward Snowden, Leonard Peltier, or any of the feds other miscarriages of justice.

But no.

He just pardons his crackhead son and leaves.

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

He could of forgiven student loans,

He tried. The Supreme Court, that Americans voted for when they chose Trump in 2016, stopped it.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

If Biden were the soulless barbarian he's now being painted as, he would really take the gloves off and use his Supreme Court-sanctioned presidential Seal Team Six privileges to really drain the swamp.

[–] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago
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[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 9 points 3 weeks ago

The reason why is because small crimes need to be punished in order to keep the plebs and peasants in line. Large crimes cannot be committed by little people. The most that you and I can do in terms of crime is maybe murderer someone, but someone in a massive position of power like Elon Musk and the (thankfully late) Brian Thompson can kill thousands of people with a stroke of a pen. But because there is some disconnect between their deaths and that pen stroke society doesn't call that murder. So they can go free while you and I would be executed or have to spend life in a small dank cell with nothing grey walls and pain.

It's also why many war criminals in Nuremberg had fairly light punishments and were often allowed to continue in positions of military and political significance after. The reason why people like Goering and Gobbells and Himmler would have been executed is less to do with their war crimes and more to do with the threat they posed politicially. They would never have followed what the Allied installed government would have wanted or changed their policies but would be undermining everything at every turn if allowed back into office. So they are done away with while the lower level chumps just got 4 or 10 years for killing who knows how many and then living their lives as normal.

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