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Trump getting killed makes him a martyr to his supporters. We can’t give him the satisfaction. It’s strategy to keep him from being offed, at least for now until he starts to prove himself to be the next hitler. Better he die of natural causes from his poor diet and advancing age.

If trump is assassinated this country falls to sectarian violence. If problematic CEOs get assassinated this country shrugs and goes on about their day, with a smile on their face. So what they tighten their private security? A motivated killer find their way around it. What’s the government gonna do? Surveil us further? Put neuralinks in our brains and zap us when we wrongthink?

^please^ ^no^

Reddit banned me. They hate anti capitalists and anti fascists

Yeah, in summary, no one wants violence but we’ve been on the receiving end of it for decades and we’ve grown impatient with doing things the right way in terms of fighting back. It’s not like we haven’t tried every other way of doing things short of a mass general strike. And the people are too desperate and divided for such a coordinated action. So violence it is. I can’t believe it took this long.

Good thing the UHC CEO was already taken out. Let them investigate me. Thought crimes don’t hold up in court and there’s no evidence of planning or ability to execute.

Free speech doesn’t need self censorship out of fear. These ghouls need to know how much the population wants them dead.

Because it’s not correct. Most people are fucking thrilled to see this guy killed, or at least certainly not upset about it. Quit your enlightened centrist nonsense.

To your earlier point, if the attempt on Trump succeeded there’s a damn good chance it would of sparked a civil war or at least a significant conflict like the troubles in northern ireland. As you can see, the killing of this guy is not sparking anything like that but fire memes and a fired up populace ready for the next deserving CEO to meet a similar fate.

Point taken, I was referring quite literally to the system. It’s unlikely we’ll have another election, but if we do, expect the democrats to run Liz Cheney. Centrism doesn’t offend their class interests and they don’t care if they lose. So they’ll run a Republican and kneecap anyone to the left of a Republican.

Again, you act like I want america being the worlds policeman. I fucking don’t. Learn to read and stop putting your nose in American affairs if you don’t have a single fucking clue about what life is like here.

I want an end to capitalism and imperialism, I want healthcare. I want the United States as we know it finished as a country. Fuck this country.

The only people raging about this guy getting his due are members of his class, the media.

You’re a social democrat, which is another form of a liberal. You support capitalism. You support extracting resources from the global south. You’re a smug European enlightened centrist who hasn’t got a fucking clue what they’re talking about when it comes to American issues or political definitions in general.

I am not a capitalist and I don’t know how you managed to get that out of this. You must think I’m right wing, but that just goes to show you do not understand Americans.

Let me tell you about my state. Vermont. We’re the home of Bernie Sanders, the highest per capita LGBTQ population (first state to support civil unions), and one of the highest gun owning states with the loosest laws. We’ve got legal weed and you can grow your own (most states prohibit), and abortion is a right codified in our state constitution (the US is 50 countries in a trench coat plus some exploited territories). We were once our own country separate of the US and prior to it, and we lasted longer as an independent republic than the confederacy during the civil war lolololol.

Go look in the mirror enlightened centrist.

I’d love to know what media you think I look at. The only social I’m on is lemmy. I don’t own a TV. I pirate news articles from all over, especially business and foreign affairs publications. I read the entire wide spectrum (/s) of pro capitalism right wing to pro capitalism liberal US media. Then I read the smaller independent leftist/anarchist/Marxist stuff. Then I read international news and the general news wires. I read it all.

My view points come from watching this system fail me over and over and over again and seeing the root of it is capitalism and imperialism itself. I cheer on evil CEOs getting shot. They’ve been committing social murder for decades while our government and legal system condone it with no recourse for the public and no more peaceful options left. I can’t believe it took this long.

If you suffered like I have under the American healthcare system you’d quit your enlightened centrist utter bullshit.

You think I supported any of that? What part of America’s democratic republic is a facade do you not understand? What part of America has always been teetering between right wing and outright fascist (save for a few years during WW2) do you not understand? Our history from our founding (ignoring native history that predates it) on is a story of insane religious Puritanism and persecution of anyone subversive of that (Salem witch trials is a great example starting pre US, but it goes all the way to satanic panic of the 1980s and todays christofascism), our land theft from natives and genocide of them, from the beginning to modern day (notably our attitudes of manifest destiny being really obvious even today), our enslavement of Africans and their descendants from the very beginning to present day in prisons thanks to the 13th amendment, I can go and on and on. We’ve been at war in some way shape or form for all of about 7 years out of our nearly 250? And that’s ignoring the colonial / native stuff prior.

We live under the dictatorship of capital and the USD is backed by oil. Notice who we regime change? Left wing leaders. Notice why? Oil and other natural resources for our multinationals to exploit. Who do we prop up? Fascists and right wing dictatorships. Try to sell oil in any other currency besides USD? We’ll bomb you. We regime change anyone who gets in the way of our corporate interests. The line must go up.

It’s obvious you’re not American and you’re wasting my time. You haven’t got a single fucking clue of what it’s like being an American so sit down and shut up. We have not been represented by our leaders since before I was alive and I’m 35. Our democracy is a complete and utter fucking sham, our politicians in both parties barring a teeny tiny inconsequential handful are all bought out by corporate America and it’s billionaire owners.

Go look up Henry Kissinger, Oliver north, citizens United, the patriot act, the 2000 election, Jack Welch the list goes on and on there’s so much evil to expose - you need to learn what the hell you’re talking about if you wanna play the non American enlightened centrist bullshit game with an American leftist.