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European investigators say that a Chinese commercial ship purposefully cut critical data cables in the Baltic Sea (www.theverge.com)

submitted 4 weeks ago by 0x815@feddit.org to c/news@beehaw.org

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cross-posted from: https://feddit.org/post/5166328

Original WSJ article is behind a paywall.

A Chinese commercial ship is suspected of deliberately dragging its anchor to cut undersea cables that connect countries over the internet, The Wall Street Journal reports.

International investigators reportedly believe the crew aboard Yi Peng 3, a bulk carrier full of Russian fertilizer, dragged its anchor for more than 100 miles across the Baltic seabed, damaging the cables that run across it. Two different internet links — one between Sweden’s Gotland Island and Lithuania, and another between Finland and Germany — stopped working earlier this month, prompting the investigation by authorities from all four countries and other nations.

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It’s not the first time European officials have suspected Russia of undersea infrastructure sabotage since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. But officials have been hesitant to accuse the Kremlin outright of interference, the Journal reports, in part for fear of further escalating tensions between Russia and Europe.

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[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 36 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

This article underplays the international games being played on this right now.

The very ship that’s being accused of the sabotage has been stopped by Swedish and Danish coast guard vessels and is currently being gently prevented from moving on. It’s a bit of a stand-off at the minute. Turns out their anchor looks all mangled up, so something has definitely happened.

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 22 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

This is the "fuck around" stage of the international games.

[–] rtc@beehaw.org 17 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

The powerful must be bored from being wealthy and using money to dictate what people should do, so maybe going a bit more hands on to play war.

They could just get a computer, yo. Even an old one would do, even 90s games can handle all their needs.

[+] Kissaki@beehaw.org 12 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

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[–] Quexotic@beehaw.org 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

So you live in a world that isn't run by the rich?

[–] Kissaki@beehaw.org 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Not like you think it is. It's not a small exclusive club where they do what they want in a planned manner and only to their own gain and amusement.

[–] rtc@beehaw.org 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I certainly do not believe this as well🤦

Edit: I do not know if this person you replied to specifically believes this in particular as well, and I'll leave it up to that person to clarify. Have fun.

[–] rtc@beehaw.org 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

What is this take… that was not my take at all. The intention was misunderstood, there was a misunderstanding of the language used. Primarily, it was a joke. I certainly do not believe there is a "the powerful" side.

You could have asked🤷

I do not know what you assumed… but I am confused because I have no concept to what you have referenced. Is there anything in particular which was offensive here? Do elaborate. I can say however that I do not know what it is, and I certainly did not mean what you believed I meant (because I do not believe there is one "the powerful" side). Unless, of course, you object to the use of all general terms. Like 'the royalty'. 'The general public' in any general sense. 'The people', again, in any general sense.

I get a feeling that I have offended some political thing I have no idea about. When I have no such relation to any such thing, if it is really so.

[–] Kissaki@beehaw.org 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

If it was intended as a joke, I don't see what would indicate it as such.

There are comments and people that like to spin this story. So I assume that's what the comment was. Meaning what it's saying.

I do ask when things are unclear or to open up the other party to elaborate on their views or meanings. I don't know what I could have asked here though.

I took no [personal] offense. I replied because I did not want to let that outlandish, divisive, conspiracy claim stand without any refute or criticism.

[–] rtc@beehaw.org 2 points 4 weeks ago

Another thing I remembered, it so happens. The origin of 'minion'. It is derived from 'mignon' which meant darling, but was started to be used in a derogatory way by people who wanted to offend a particular group or something else. The new meaning of the word was born.

In this case I'm an unfortunate person who called my loved one 'mignon' without knowing what this new thing was, that such a thing ever happened.

I still feel it would be better to ask next time. I hope you see now I was innocent of such… doings.

[–] rtc@beehaw.org 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

I personally found the "the fuck" to be an aggressive, offended tone but that could be a misunderstanding on my part. From what I'm used to, I've personally seen that phrase used by people who are against something, intensely, in particular.

As for what you have referenced, it so happens that I have seen no such person saying any such thing. I was referencing no such thing.

…do some people really believe everything is controlled by a small exclusive group? Interesting. Lol that I can disagree with wholly. I hope this clarifies the earlier matter.

[–] Kissaki@beehaw.org 1 points 4 weeks ago

Sorry about that.

As a side note; An '/s', used to indicate sarcasm, would have made it clear to me that it is a joke.

[–] remington@beehaw.org 3 points 4 weeks ago

What the fuck is this take.

This is way too aggressive. You could have worded this much differently in line with our ethos (be(e) nice) here. When you signed up for an account at Beehaw you agreed to this. So, please abide by our only rule and if you need more clarification, then read our documents. Thank you.

[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 4 points 3 weeks ago

take all your overgrown infants away somewhere
and build them a home, a little place of their own
the fletcher memorial home for incurable tyrants and kings
they could appear to themselves everyday on closed-circuit TV to make sure they're still real
it's the only connection they feel

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 1 points 4 weeks ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUxkFCBPgx4

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 15 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Soo... what will they do? Let them off with a stern warning? Or will there be real consequences? Sabotage is pretty high on the list of things that should get you locked up, right?

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

Better than a bow warning.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 weeks ago

How am I not even slightly suprised by this?

[–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

cut chinese cables.

[–] whereBeWaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind.

[–] rtc@beehaw.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

They could send a bill for physical damages and other losses. If ignored, they could levy other… penalties.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is a cable

[–] SteevyT@beehaw.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

Dear God...