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It's funny how just exposing the religious to alternative afterlife's is enough to completely lose a lifetime of teaching and servitude, and strips away any inclination for a pleasant afterlife. No convincing or reapplying every seven days - nope, just being near a thing removes all of Jesus' teachings.
I've made this argument to religious friends and family members resistant to trying psychedelics.
"If a little piece of paper or a little mushroom risks getting rid of God, what does that say about God?"
I think it says more about their actual beliefs in God. As a Christ follower, I believe everyone has their own path to take. If drugs in moderation is one of them, go for it. Hell, it's theorized Moses was tripping on shrooms when talking to God.
Those who fear being exposed to "other" things will take them away from God (beyond addiction, that's a whole other thing), then they never believed in the first. They just use it as a shield to justify their horrible actions.
I believe everyone has their own path to take. If drugs in moderation is one of them, go for it.
Idk, you kinda told on your puritanical background there. If my path requires drugs in excess, who are you to judge?
Not sure how you got puritanical from that. It's actually medical. Anything in excess will damage your body. I'm just as concerned for people's bodily health as I am their spiritual health.
I suspect we're dealing with a difference in how you two are defining "excess."
"A lot more than normal" vs "a quantity sufficient to be toxic/medically harmful."
100% agreed. Assumptions were made. It's all good. Communication is key to understanding differences and growing.
Presumably it says more about their faith …..
Here’s a ridiculous analogy
After a lifetime of falling from grace at the hands of two liter sodas, I understand that I’m weak in my self-control. Now I only drink soda in cans (despite the cost and environmental impact) as part of my commitment to moderation. Controlling the temptations I may not prevail over is part of my battle for moderation.
That says nothing about the power of big sodas to impact my health, my life, merely that I understand where I’m all too human
If it makes you feel better, from a purely environmental perspective, drinking soda from aluminum cans is probably way better than plastic bottles due to higher aluminum recycling rates and much higher efficiency of the aluminum recycling process compared to plastic.
Afterlives*
Aren't the "good" Christians required to "believe in the darkness of hell" so they are afraid of it and don't do things which make them end up there?
that sounds so fucking metal WHAT MOVIE IS THIS
Wicked. The musical it's based on is punk as fuck without having any punk music in it all!
The book they are both based on is also a fairly good read. Just don't think too much about the societal implications of Ozian society.
Wicked. It's a prequel / slight overlap to the Wizard of Oz.
Apparently it's a two part movie and the next half is next year. So maybe it does deserve 1 star.
Apparently it's a two part movie and the next half is next year. So maybe it does deserve 1 star.
Naw. I was a bit worried when they said they were splitting it, but my wife and I love Wicked (she talked about it on our second date and before our third date I had listened to the soundtrack and sent her my thoughts and started reading the book), so we went to see it opening night.
Having seen it, I now think it’s a very appropriate use of the Part I/Part II split. They divide the movies at the intermission of the musical, Act I is Part I and Act II will be Part II. This may seem silly since the musical itself is about as long as Part I (if you include intermission), but a musical can tell a story like this much faster than a movie. Movies have establishing shots and reaction shots, longer action sequences, time spent allowing moments to land, letting scenes breathe, people taking in their surroundings, etc.
If they had tried to cram both acts into one movie it would’ve felt extremely rushed. They barely added any story elements to the movie, and song-wise only really added a bit to One Short Day, but it still filled it’s runtime and never (to me anyway) felt like it was dragging or filler.
We loved it. Now, we’re biased because we love the musical, but it’s a good musical. So I recommend the movie!
Did you also give Lord of The Rings one star?
The thing is that they are deliberately hiding it's part 1 of 2.
Nope, because that wasn't really a secret. You would have had to be very out of the loop to not know that in advance. But I saw Dune with a buddy and he was very "What?! It just ends there?". Wrt Wicked, I saw the musical in London ages ago and was very surprised to hear that this is a two part movie (also known as a miniseries).
If you liked the musical, I recommend the movie. I was somewhat skeptical going in, but I did keep in mind how story-dense the musical is. Pretty early into the movie my wife and I were both like, “Oh yeah, it’s a good thing they split it.” It would’ve felt crazy rushed in the medium of film if they had both acts in one movie, or they would’ve had to cut stuff out.
I don’t really blame them for hiding “Part I”; that’s just good marketing, as fewer people would see it if it declared itself a Part I. But it really is worth seeing as a movie, just one that demands a sequel. It may seem somewhat duplicitous but…that’s marketing. Once you’re in the theater they put Part I up on the title card.
What, did she think "Wicked" meant "she's like a candle?"
(Or a tampon?)
Watch the trailer at wicked.com
Submit to the darkness of hell
From Middle English wicked, wikked, an alteration of Middle English wicke, wikke (“morally perverse, evil, wicked”). Of uncertain origin. Possibly from an adjectival use of Old English wiċċa (“wizard, sorcerer”), from Proto-West Germanic *wikkō (“necromancer, sorcerer”), though the phonology makes this theory difficult to explain. Alternatively, perhaps related to English wicker, Old Norse víkja (“to bend to, yield, turn, move”), Swedish vika (“to bend, fold, give way to”), English weak.
Evil or mischievous by nature. Synonyms: evil, immoral, malevolent, malicious, nefarious, twisted, villainous; see also Thesaurus:evil
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wicked
Maybe Karen should read the Satanistic book called the dictionary.
Oh, Karen...
while there are people like this, I'm pretty sure this is just trolling. Karen Smith? come on
Spot on, but we still play along with the charade because it's cathartic. I was raised by people like this and I feel an inch closer to humanity when I get to talk shit on the strawman.
yeah as I said people like this do exist. not even a strawman really, if you remember the various iterations of satanic panic, with d&d, heavy metal, harry potter... funnily enough the last one turned out to be written by a demon.
Can confirm. Was raised by a Karen Smith.
DORK SIDED!
Good
\m/
What did you think the movie "Wicked" was about? A costume party?
What movie? Asking for my kid
Wicked
Is this someone who was trying all their lives to scare children of the frightful darkness of hell ... and now that they beloved it this same person is mad about it?
Also, traditionally hell is depicted with hella-on-point cozy-mood indirect lighting, calling it darkness is a heinous sin and intolerant towards black hearts everywhere.
Who, or what, is Arianna grande?
Smaller version of Ariana Venti
Have to admit I chuckled
The reincarnation of Andre the Giant
She's arguably one of the biggest contemporary pop star icons. You've probably heard her music. She sings:
Whoa, I knew about her since Disney something (bcs memes), but never heard any of these songs.
Truly blessed.
She's a young singer/actress. I think she may have worked with Disney before, but she's marketing herself to the tween/young adult crowd, so I'm not exactly familiar with her work.