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This is really interesting stuff, found it on Hacker News. It's like WINE, but for Android <-> Linux: https://gitlab.com/android_translation_layer/android_translation_layer/

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[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

finally a non electron yt client, i also have another question does sober use the same method.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Electron apps suck and should die but for a YouTube player it seems appropriate

[–] hankskyjames777@thebrainbin.org 1 points 6 hours ago

Sober uses the same method as mcpe-launcher with android minecraft

[–] yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

As the rule of thumb with FOSS projects, it has a horrible name

Time to rename it to one of the very creative FOSS project names

  • yet another something (YAS)
  • something is not other thing (SINOT)
  • OpenSomething, FreeSomething, LibreSomething
  • Something
  • Periodic table
  • Somethingify (this one is new)

Kudos to devs though. This is awesome

  • KDE Advanced Something Editor (KASE)
  • Gsomething
  • Some random word. The worst ones I can think of are simultaneously Kleopatra and Seahorse. Guess what they do.
  • "It's actually the name of an Indonesian fruit commonly eaten at celebrations..."

Yeah it's not open source unless the title is a garbage fire.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

You forgot -XNG

[–] Unyieldingly@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Android apps on flathub will be lovely.

[–] HeerlijkeDrop@thebrainbin.org 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How is ATL's architecture different than Waydroid's?

I guess it's running a free ART implémentation? As Android runs on Linux there's at least no kernel translation layer to do

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 50 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

Wow this is awesome! Waydroid is insecure (outdated, rootful container), slow in development and only sandboxed on Fedora.

But that they take Newpipe... which is notoriously broken as Youtube tries to block everything...

Other apps are

  • OSMAnd~
  • OrganicMaps
  • Grayjay
  • Jerboa, Fedilab, Pixeldroid
  • Amethyst, Voyage

Those are really unique on Android

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I've been using FreeTube on desktop and it has worked great (with VPN)

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Freetube uses Electron. The Flatpak is 240MB in size, the Newpipe + Translation layer is 40MB

It also doesnt bundle an often outdated version of Chromium, as found in Electron

But I tried Newpipe Flatpak and it was blocked totally. May have been because of my VPN though. Freetube had the same issues.

Grayjay is king at block circumvention

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Good to know, thanks. If the FreeTube flatpak is working for me, I might as well try the Newpipe one if it's that much better. I guess I just assumed that the translation layer would add CPU overhead.

I'll have to look into Grayjay. Is there a flatpak? I'm on immutable, so flatpak is much preferred.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 1 points 7 hours ago

Newpipe flatpak is totally broken XD

but it is more efficient, the translation layer is not an issue.

Actually, I am not sure what LocalSend and ConverterNOW use but those also look kinda like Android apps with GTK decorations.

Grayjay is android-only but a really nice cross-platform player. It is a framework with plugins, for nearly all streaming services... apart from Peertube??

[–] Bogasse@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I'm using NewPipe daily and it doesn't seem broken at all?

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[–] Quackdoc@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

it's worth noting that no actual security problems have been presented that haven't been dealt with, Sandboxing is available on any distro assuming the tools are made availible. Waydroid supports both apparmor and selinux, please report any security issues and tag the maintainers when doing so.

EDIT: you do need to set apparmor into enforce mode manually though.

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[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I went from newpipe to tubular since it comes with sponsorblock, but iirc the backend is the same.

No VPN or anything, it works great.

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[–] shekau@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Newpipe works perfectly fine with only small issues sometimes. OrganicMaps is available on flathub

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[–] tomjuggler@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Does anyone know if this is the same way Sober is running the port of Roblox?

[–] hankskyjames777@thebrainbin.org 2 points 6 hours ago

No, it's the same way as how mcpe-launcher works with android minecraft

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago (4 children)

This is great. This gives me hope for Linux mobile 🙏🏽

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[–] potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fish 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Interesting concept, if it gets good enough I hope ubuntu touch adopts this because I'm not a big fan of waydroid.

[–] Quackdoc@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It's still really basic, but has loads of potential, Unforunately it has a hard requirement on GTK, otherwise there are a few things that would have been nice for greater AX86 in general, for instance they have mediacodec->vaapi support, something ax86 has... struggled with in the past. but we can't use it since we can't use gtk.

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[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

[Genuine] Okay, why when Freetube exists though?

[–] PureTryOut@lemmy.kde.social 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is not about Newpipe itself but more that fact that this is an Android app ran on desktop Linux, without any containers like Waydroid does. This is like Wine, but for Android apps.

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 2 points 1 day ago

Thanks for explaining!

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

People who are used to NewPipe can use it

Also this is more of a testament to Android on Linux rather than NewPipe on Linux

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[–] penquin@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

FreeTube doesn't always have 4k. I don't remember which format, but a video has to be a certain format to show as 4k. Majority of videos that are shot in 4k show as only 1080p on FreeTube. I welcome new pipe to linux and will actually be using it

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well, good news the newest update to Freetube now adds 4K+ support since they changed the library used to get the videos or something. I have tested it and the video says 4K and seems to be that. Feel free to correct me if you try the latest update and find any discrepancies.

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It has indeed been fixed, and I love it. Thank you

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 2 points 1 day ago

Yay! Sure, we are happy to help!

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

That'd be great then. Will be checking soon. Thank you

[–] Mwrp@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I wonder how does it work? New pipe is originally a portarit application for Android.

[–] PureTryOut@lemmy.kde.social 9 points 1 day ago

It translates the Android API to Linux desktop-compatible calls, just like Wine does for Windows apps.

[–] tomjuggler@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Newpipe works great on tablets too, a lot of Android apps have a landscape mode

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