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I get that it's open source provided you use codium not code but I still find that interesting

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[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My hate for Microsoft is based on the Embrace-Extend-Extinguish business tactics they use since the 80's instead of competing on product quality.

Take a look at the recent computing history and you'll find plenty of examples of great software killed by MS shitty alternatives that were the default because of the stranglehold on the OS market.

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[–] stepanzak@iusearchlinux.fyi 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't use VSCode for the exact reason. I used VSCodium but switched to Neovim. I see this problem more with GitHub (also owned by Microsoft). I was not able to get off GitHub yet, but I'm planning to switch to Codeberg probably. I heard that GitLab is also closed source?

[–] rglullis@communick.news 8 points 1 year ago

Gitlab is open source, but some features are only available in their Enterprise Edition. As the name suggests, unless you are looking for an alternative for a large company, the open source "Community" Edition is enough for all your needs.

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[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It’s hard to separate yourself from it when the company you work for uses it heavily and leans on some of the extensions for things like containers.

I used to be a hardcore Sublime Text user until it started formatting all of my code like garbage. I had plugins conflicting with each other and couldn’t find alternatives that did what I needed without clashes happening. Plus, barely anything is alive over on the Sublime side.

It’s hard to say no to an editor with that big of a community. You can find 100 plugins for your one need, vs 2 on the Sublime side (and you end up finding that those 2 plugins haven’t been updated in years).

You can always fallback to VSCodium.

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[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Which goes to show that we don't blindly hate Microsoft, and that it's not that we refuse to use Windows because it's made by them, but because it's shit.

[–] tentaclius@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I use NeoVim, but I don't hate Microsoft (they contribute a lot to Linux kernel). What is wrong with me?

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I prefer Linux but I do think that the hate for Windows is blown out of proportion. Teams is a whole different story.

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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I just want Atom back, or anything that works like it. I want a text editor with a folder tree browser. Syntax highlighting is nice. And decent full project text search.

I use vim for writing code, and atom for taking notes, or just reading code. Then they shut down atom and it sucks.

I hate that I need to dedicate so much time to finding new tools in tech. It’s nice that vim doesn’t change.

[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Free software doesn't have owners, that is kinda the point.

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[–] sounddrill@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I use vscodium and ms office 2016, fight me

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[–] sxan@midwest.social 12 points 1 year ago (8 children)

You use whatever works best for you. Microsoft Lens, on Android, is still unmatched for scanning, correcting perspective, and cleaning up whiteboards. No OSS tool comes close - and, believe me, I tried to use others (or, other; I think OpenScan is the only thing that attempts something similar). It would be foolish to not use a tool that you like using and doesn't have any hidden consequences, merely because of on opinion.

I don't think VSCode is particularly good, myself, but the point remains: it's free, I haven't heard anything about it surreptitiously sending info to MS, and if it works for people, then great.

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[–] macabrett@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

I'll be interested to see how JetBrains's Fleet works out. I like Rider a lot more than full Visual Studio (also Rider is actually available on Linux).

[–] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone 11 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't say I "hate" Microsoft (or Apple, or Google), but I recognize the harm they do to the free software movement and to the technology world in general. I wouldn't avoid a good quality free software just because it's made by a GAFAM company (as long as I stick with the free parts and avoid proprietary extensions), just like I wouldn't use proprietary software just because it's not made by GAFAM.

The point isn't to hate GAFAM but to seek freedom and control over your computing.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I rather use notepad++ masterpiece

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If Windows was open source it wouldn’t be as bad

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[–] CCL@links.hackliberty.org 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

most of us hate the government and yet we use the roads

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[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was using Atom, but that died. I work with both Python and Fortran, and VSCode works for my usecase, but I'm open to suggestions.

[–] londos@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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[–] Secret300@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Make something better and I'll switch to it

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[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

I use vscodium btw.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Agreed, I share the same frustration (including for Chromium) as if developers were somehow blissfully ignorant of the political and economical power they give away to company that use and abuse their work, truly self flagellating.

[–] HafizMuhammad@mastodon.social 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] Templa@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

If you're a true MS hater you can't use TypeScript either. /sarcasm

If you work as developer, depending on where you work at using code editors with features like remote SSH is a must. If you are just a hobbyist even coding on Nodepad++ will do.

[–] stifle867@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I was using Sublime Text for many years. Even after Atom came out I still used ST3. However, ST development is understandably slow compared to VSCode and it is now so far behind that loyalty isn't enough of a reason to continue using it.

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[–] garam@lemmy.my.id 9 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Developing in C# in Corporate, so C# debugger only works on VS Code sadly

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[–] featherfurl@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

I feel like microsoft's gameplan is less "everyone must use windows" these days and more "we want to gatekeep tech on as many levels as possible". I'm wary of relying on anything they put out. I think we've all recently seen what big tech companies do when they decide its time to monetize more aggressively.

Right now helix is pretty good for what I do with it.

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