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The belief that Israel’s actions amount to apartheid, ethnic cleansing and genocide are “worthy of respect in a democratic society”, an employment tribunal has concluded in a landmark decision.

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 49 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"Zionists are troubled by people complaining about them genociding people, and apparently there something called the 'freedom of speech'"

That headline feels very.... very.... something.

I can personally confirm that Zionists get pissed when you call them out (im Jewish).

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 40 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

The problem of anti Zionism is that those of us who oppose apartheid ethnostates regularly have to stay alert less those who just hate Jews claim to be with us

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

You can lay that problem at the feet of those that label any criticism of israel's actions anti zionist. By grouping everyone together they force that situation on themselves.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Although, some racists love Israel. Pro-Israel groups pay Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, a notorious racist in England, and while he hates immigrants (despite being the descendants of Irish immigrants) he specifically supports Israel.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Any idea behind ethnostates invariably feel dangerously fascist.

"This land only welcomes X and anyone who isn't X should leave" - where X can be whites, blacks, jews, latins, arabs, japanese, whatever. Ethnic purity is stupid.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

Agreed. Ethnostates are based on racial classifications, and the preference of one (or one group) of them above others.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The only way to equate Israel with the Jewish Religion is to be a Racist - it requires one to believe that "Jews are all the same" hence they are all represented by Israel. This is expecially Racist given that there are many Jews who are openly critical of Israel, its actions and even its existence - it doesn't get much more obviously Racist than when non-Jews claim to know better about Jewishness and who represents All Jews than actual people who are Jews.

This is how you spot the Racists: not just the obvious ones but also the kind that playacts as anti-Racist whilst in practice, as I pointed out, holding extremelly prejudiced views and in practice viewing, judging and treating other human beings as "etnic group members" rather than people - they'll tell you all about what people of other etnicities are like and how you should support or not people based entirelly on the ethnicity they were born into.

In my personal experience Britain is riddled with Racist thinking, but a lot of it was disguised as "support of 'good' races" (only they carefully avoided the word "race"), except when it came to Muslims since discrimination against them has long been treated as acceptable.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This is expecially Racist given that there are many Jews who are openly critical of Israel, its actions and even its existence

Indeed. Judaism is very clearly not monolithic, perhaps particularly because rabbis have the freedom to think critically.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 weeks ago

Two Jewish students complained about a 2019 lecture by Miller in which he identified Zionism as one of the five pillars of Islamophobia, the panel heard. The Community Security Trust, which campaigns against antisemitism, said Miller’s remarks were a “disgraceful slur”.

Imagine getting offended by facts.