Surely nothing will go wrong with THIS corporate owned walled garden.
this post was submitted on 06 Oct 2024
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I know a much better place. It is called mastodon.
Just pointing out the author mentions they used mastodon for a time too, their argument is that bluesky interface, content and moderation are better for them.
That mindset is the problem. A slightly better UX at the cost of freedom is a bad deal.
They keep building up these companies with shiti core principles then pika face when corpos do them dirty 🤡
UX matters.
If open source software genuinely wants to be an option for normal people, they need to fix their shit.
That's fair! Although I fear big money will always come up with some way to make a "better" UX, either simply because they can afford more/better devs, and often by compromising privacy, accessibility, etc.
embrace extend extinguish has worked in the past and it can work again
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I will give bluesky credit for their focus on moderation. Hopefully some of that design is cloned by the Mastodon folks sooner than later
I will give bluesky credit for their focus on moderation.
Watch that focus disappear once the enshittification phase starts.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of the microblog format, but I'm pretty sure everyone here is going to agree that Mastodon is the superior Twitter replacement.
Nope. Not at all. I very much prefer BlueSky as far as Twitter replacement goes.
yep, people that loved walled gardens like twitter will absolutely love bluesky
I don't think I get what you mean when you say "Walled Garden" in this context. Can you elaborate?
just another corporate managed behemoth. their interfaces are slick, but the federation lacking
walled garden
(Edit, For example..) Facebook control all aspects: you can only do what they want. Mastodon can be hosted and modified by anyone, it's freedom.
A closed platform, walled garden, (...) is a software system wherein the carrier or service provider has control over applications, content, and/or media, and restricts convenient access to non-approved applicants or content. This is in contrast to an open platform, wherein consumers generally have unrestricted access to applications and content. - wikipedia
What are you talking about? BlueSky has absolutely nothing to do with Facebook. It's a different company using the open AT Protocol.
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I'm going to say that to the absolute gross majority of people federation means absolutely nothing.
I'd go even as far as to say that the Venn diagram of what you can and cannot post between Mastodon and blue sky is almost the perfect circle
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Unfortunately not. For me the main problem is discoverability. There's no recommendation algorithm except for boosts. I'm not suggesting Mastodon integrate some kind of machine learning or other advanced stuff, but number of likes from followed accounts and a threshold would be nice for a start. As it is, Mastodon is just bad for entertainment purposes. Maybe it works for other purposes, but for entertainment I'd rather have the algorithm-fuelled quote-tweet dunking on Twitter.
There's the explore tab in the mastodon app that shows you trending hashtags, and recommends people to follow based off who you already follow. There's trending accounts that just post about trending items too. Use them as your algorithm.
There's definitely an opportunity for someone to run their own curation service for personalized feeds based on a user's activity on other social networks.
I tend to just check All periodically for the first couple of months and follow tags and people that suit my own interests and build my own feed from zero. But that takes effort and time, and for folks who want an option further toward the convenience end of the privacy/convenience spectrum I suspect it would be a fairly popular option.
Leaving one privately run garden for another sure seems like a choice 🤔
It's built to be decentralized though, from what I read.
Mastodon: Am I a joke to you?
I wasn't a fan of the format. (and apparently I'm not allowed to have an opinion on format)
Isn't the format literally just Twitter?
it's quite different in the sense that you don't see any recommended content, just your follows and their boosts.
That's because its not harvesting your data in order to pull more engagement for ad revenue.
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I'm not OP, but yes, that's why I don't use Mastodon or Twitter/X. I really don't like the format.
I tried to give Twitter a fair shake several years ago, and I found it to be a complete waste of my time. So I don't use it, or anything like it. That's also around when I found Reddit, which I found to not be a complete waste of time, and that's why I'm on Lemmy instead of Mastodon. I like following communities, not topics or people.
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It's centralized. They allow federation using their own protocol.
But all you need to know is that it's a capitalist, for-profit undertaking.
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Now ditch that for mastodon
Mastodon is much better for that
There is another alternative to twitter
Its pretty unknown, especially on lemmy, so i dont think many people heard of it, its on something called "the fediverse" and is called "mastodon"
The one drawback to Bluesky’s block feature is that a user’s block lists aren’t private. Through third party apps, you can find lists of everyone anyone’s blocked. That probably won’t bother most people, but it’s a potential issue for those who worry that public block lists could be used perniciously by persistent stalkers or harassers.
The only missing function is the ability to lock your account or go private as you can on Twitter, which would let you hide your account from non-followers while still posting to folks who already follow you.
But Bluesky has gotten considerable criticism at key points over the last year and a half for failures in handling anti-Black racism in particular. Rudy Fraser wrote extensively about some of these issues along with a deep dive into his goals and challenges as the creator of the now legendary Blacksky feed in a great post a year ago.
Every time someone recommends me Bluesky, I learn something else about it that makes me never want to make an account. Any one of these three quotes should be a dealbreaker on their own
His profile is sign-in blocked.
“Public square” indeed.
I tried Threads and it was horrible. Honestly not using Mastodon that much. But maybe that format is just not my thing.
See the thing is........you have to microblog like a crazed hobo yelling things into the void. It doesn't need to make sense. It's better if it DOESN'T make sense.
Yup, I've tried Twitter and hated it. I remember when Mastodon launched, and it was described as "federated Facebook" IIRC, and now people are claiming that it's more like "federated Twitter." I hate both Facebook and Twitter, so I use neither.
So honestly, I don't really care about Twitter/X vs BlueSky vs Mastodon, because I don't want to use any of them. Reddit/Lemmy is a much more interesting format to me TBH.
I really need local interest groups. For example a local skating community or local hardware selling group - that’s only Facebook today unfortunately.
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Bluesky is also about as dead as tumblr
I barely see anyone interacting with anything, or anyone for that matter
Another idea: ditch Twitter and learn to play the ukulele instead
How about, no
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