I really hope we don't get riots like in the UK now. I am sure we will see a lot of incitement from the extreme far right and i am worried that the populist right will flank the incitement rather than distance from it.
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Attacks like this fit their narrative perfectly. They don’t even need to incite.
If people like you only worry about how this will play well for the extreme right, they have already won.
The problem here isn’t the far right. The problem is terrorist murder.
The far right is still the biggest problem we have. Needless to say this was a horrible incident and no one wants fucking Isis around, but far right terrorism is still a much bigger threat to our society.
Fair enough as opinions go. More interesting would be facts and figures. A good place to begin: annual number of fatalities caused by terrorism of each of those two variants.
The German internal secret service (BfV) counted 1148 violent right-wing offenses in 2023. There were 329 violent offenses with "foreign" ideological background (this includes islamism among many other things) in 2023. Source PDF
I should probably note that BfV is known for being a little blind to right-wing extremism too.
Previous BfV president Maaßen has in the meantime become the leader of his very own right-wing party. I do trust current BfV president Haldenwang a bit more than him but I don't think he's been able to unfuck the organization as a whole.
Yeah here you go: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/06/terrorism-far-right-white-supremacists-911-us
The guy from Norway, the guy in New Zealand, the guys in Germany were all nazi shooters mowing down immigrants. But politics and media call them lone wolfs or disoriented kids and it has nothing to do with their nazi manifestos vs if they’re Muslim it’s a problem of Islam as a whole.
I don’t blame anyone for actually believing that Islamism is real our biggest threat because media and politics make it seem that way.
The problem is fascism in any way. Islamist extremists are just as fascistic as right wing extremists.
I guess we all know what happened in this comment section!
Crickets.
It seems he has been already denied asylum last year, but escaped the authorities somehow.
Now some politicians are suggesting idiotic laws and spreading populist bullshit, like every time.
somehow
Refugees that get denied asylum after years are informed days to weeks ahead when exactly the authorities show up to bring them back to their origin country.
Doesn't seem that smart
I'm sorry, what are you expecting?
Expecting? I was expecting exactly what we both see. No debate of substance is permitted on this subject. You know that already.
If comments like "all muslims are bad" are a good start to a "debate of substance" in your view, I don't actually mind you not participating.
This straw man says more about you than any argument I have ever made here.
Huh? You were complaining about how evil mods were suppressing debate (paraphrasing obviously).
But the removed comment thread literally started with a blanket "muslims are bad" comment.
Man, this shit just keeps happening.
Just what we need. /s