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[–] eric@014450.xyz 39 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Me here, still generally enjoying your comments.

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tree frog complements flying squid, more news at 11

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It's fuckin hot!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

And don't let them dictate to us how much is enough

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago

From the article, it sounds like there's been specific legal stuff going on that influenced this:

Newsom’s signature on Thursday reflects the power and influence of labor unions in the nation’s most populous state, which have worked to organize fast food workers in an attempt to improve their wages and working conditions.

It also settles — for now, at least — a fight between labor and business groups over how to regulate the industry. In exchange for higher pay, labor unions have dropped their attempt to make fast food corporations liable for the misdeeds of their independent franchise operators in California, an action that could have upended the business model on which the industry is based. The industry, meanwhile, has agreed to pull a referendum related to worker wages off the 2024 ballot.

So yeah, labor unions bringing cases that could effectively dismantle the corporate/franchisee relationship is a big, big deal to fast food companies, which are generally the most "franchised" types of businesses in the US. Agreeing to higher pay to slow unionization efforts and to outright stop cases that change how the core of their businesses function seems like a smart short-term move on their part.

It would still be better if it was for everyone, but this particularly seems to have some history behind why it happened for just these workers.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago

If you start at the bottom it will force those above to raise wages in order to compete.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This focus is kinda weird ngl. Why is fast food entertainment being protected and promoted? Let the market crush this shit - we don't need more McDonald's garbage in this world.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Welp, decades of data can tell you that "letting the market crush this shit" ain't working.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You and I have very different definitions on what it means to let the market do it's thing, I think.

You aware how heavily subsidized beef is, for McDonald's sake?

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We can raise minimum wages and reduce subsidies. It’s not like it’s one or the other.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We should shift the meat and dairy subsidies into fake/lab meat and oat milk.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m from farm country (thankfully no CAFOs, locally) and ngl. While I like oat milk, I love cold, whole dairy milk. As in I live alone and easily drink a gallon or more per week.

[–] subignition@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At 52 gallons a year you are drinking over 3x the average amount of milk

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Probably. It helps stretch the “food.”

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

One lobby is regular people; the other are billionaires and corporations.

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Specifically for McDonald’s?

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think your post makes sense.

Fast food is being targeted for not paying their workers a living wage. This is the opposite of protection and promotion.

The government is stepping in because the 'free market' hasn't corrected this and won't correct it.

Am I misunderstanding where you're coming from?

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

In a way it does protect the market by forcing it competitive. The market definitely has the power to squeeze fast food out of existence.

[–] Tygr@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

No federal limit to executive pay and incentives then? Problem not solved but I’m happy some effort was made at the state level

[–] Sho@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Finally the essential workers get something worth a damn

[–] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So McDonald's is pulling out of California now, right?

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Since a living wage for fast-food workers is possible in Denmark, I'm sure it's possible in California and the rest of the US.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don’t be silly. The Crappy Meal probably won’t cost $10 either.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's almost already at that price for a burger fry and drink

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I was short on time and money and was shocked at the price of a soda. It hides the chlorine though.

[–] sock@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

its crazy how unaffordable "affordable" food is getting

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Food also deserves quotes. It fills the space and won’t immediately kill your but it’s not food by any stretch.