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Reading about FOSS philosophy, degoogling, becoming against corporations, and now a full-blown woke communist (like Linus Torvalds)

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[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

I was feeling the last part had some more story behind it so I went ahead and found this:

Seems like I'm a full-blown woke communist too

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn't read like he's an actual communist, more insulting people (rightly so) that would call liberals communists.

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[–] darcy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

er... did torvalds just say trans rights? based alert

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think he said trans rights in the wording that >90% of people would agree with.

[–] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

God I wish that were true but there are a LOT of people (well, conservatives) who are vehemently against wider society allowing cross dressing or medical transition. It's not 90% :(

[–] ThatHermanoGuy@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

Just when I thought I couldn't admire him more...

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm definitely woke af. And proud of it.

I have come to think that when profits are at odds with health, happiness, the good of society and humanity, then either a non profit foundation needs to be running it or it needs to be in the hands of the government—but a much less corrupt one. And I believe oligopolies need to be broken up and anti trust laws greatly expanded and enforced. Then we can deal with the oligopoly / plutocracy. We set a maximum wage (including all earnings) and tax 100% above that. Penalties for regulatory breaches include jail time. For corporations. With corporations reigned in, oligopolies and oligarchies crumbled, we can prevent regulatory capture and corruption. Campaign finance is abolished and it is paid for out of public funds. We abolish first past the post voting in favor of scientifically determined better alternatives to ensure voters actually have a variety of choices.

Idk wtf that makes me except maybe a ranting lunatic lol

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago (23 children)

Linux and open source in general completely blow apart capitalist arguments that profit motive is necessary for innovation and technological advancement. Open source ecosystem primarily run by volunteers has produces some of the most interesting and innovative technologies that we've seen. The reality is that people make interesting things because they're curious and they enjoy making stuff. Pretty much nobody makes anything interesting with profit being the primary motive.

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also without open source the capitalist tech sector would collapse

[–] axsyse@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It wouldn't necessarily collapse (it wasn't exactly suffering before FOSS stuff "hit the shelves", so to speak) but the gatekeeping that comes with it would certainly cause a tremendous amount of stagnation

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I work in software development. Almost all modern architecture would collapse without the open source ecosystem.

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[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

capitalist arguments that profit motive is necessary for innovation and technological advancement

I don't know who is arguing this because it's incredibly stupid. The greatest scientific minds of history, the mathematicians, the physicists, the inventors, were not capitalists, they're people with passion for their work.

If we move to a society that guarantees basic human needs and good education, we're only going to have more scientists and engineers that progress technology even faster.

[–] Thorned_Rose@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Capitalists argue this because it gives them the appearance of a moral high ground.

Enshittification shows how untrue this - capitalism by its very nature will always devolve into worse and worse offerings because it's reliant on squeezing out ever more profit.

Capitalism will only ever puh out the bare minimum of technological advancement. And keeping people in indentured labour (aka employees) to the capitalist system so that they either have no time to come up with innovations themselves or they own the intellectual property of any indentured workers means that the overwhelming majority of innovation is monopolised by capitalism too. Which also contributes to the appearance of pushing advancement.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And while we are at it... novelists, poets, painters, musicians, philosophers, ...

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[–] thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Context for those who are baffled (I was)

https://news.itsfoss.com/linus-torvalds-woke-communists/

No Linus hasn't grabbed a red rag and isn't off to foment revolution

[–] The_Jewish_Cuban@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

unfortunately I think this is just him saying he's a "woke communist" if being a woke communist is atheism, women's rights, and gun control. I don't think he's a marxist of any stripe it seems. However, I am willing to be corrected here. I've only seen this post regarding to him

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[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel called out.

I'm not quite there yet but im definitly at the second to last block

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you'd like to discuss the subject, there are many comms on a handful of instances where people would be happy to!

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Just wait for the next stage as a libertarian socialist, without a leading communist party, because we can take care of us ourselves - it's usually called anarchy (which doesn't mean no social norms, just self-organisation without leadership)

[–] specter@board.minimally.online 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

libertarian socialist

idk about you comrade but I don't read from thelibertariansocialistlibrary.org

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/

[–] BaumGeist@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I considered myself libsoc but not anarchist for a long time. Still kinda do. I believe in the ideal of a classless, oppressionless, non-hierarchical society, but I'm not out there living that ideal and doing praxis.

If all it takes to belong to any political movement is simply to claim you belong regardless of what your actions say, I don't care for nor want your meaningless, substanceless labels. On the other hand, if it takes participation, then spending my time arguing online about whose ~~fantasy football team~~ political philosophy is better sure ain't it either.

Either way, I'm probably just another lib with lofty aspirations. My best hope is that someone reads this, goes "you know what? That jaded shitlib has a motherfucking point!" And then logs out to go be an anarchist instead of just throwing the term around.

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[–] whou@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I too just turned into a Marxist after finding out about Linux and software freedom in 2020 lol

I think there might be more than a handful of us. Welcome, comrade.

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[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This meme shows completely my journey. I became a FOSS advocate in 2020 after realized that all sites that I visited wanted my "cookies". I started to questioning myself about and after some research I became a disciple of Richard Stallman and a Marxist-Leninist.

[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

It started with privacy.

It continued with freedom.

It ended in hatred for 90% of the world.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] icepuncher69@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Fine, but dont defend tyranical regimes. They are bad no mather who they say they read. They could could claim to be following the teachings of fucking Mr Roggers but if they have concentration camps then thats not utopic or very humanitarian in my opinion, specially if ther is some mad dictator in power with everything no matter how manny extra steps are in between.

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[–] ConfusedLlama@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

rant:

I have been using Linux since 2006, a lefty and against the super-rich and big corporations since I remember (to the point of avoiding their products like the plague), also never having understood or accepted gender roles and other stupid traditional concepts, yet never turned into a communist 🤷

It baffles me that so many people think that respecting gender equality, understanding the evil in big corporations and avoiding them, valuing community and being tolerant (except for intolerance) and against discrimination somehow equals communism... I say this because I've been called a communist by many people who know me, while I have always rejected it explicitly!

/rant

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[–] CaptKoala@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Yes, I agree, I am at stage 3 and stage 4 looks more enticing every single damn day.

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Fuck communist statist, foss is pure anarchism.

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[–] heatnet@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I used linux for about the same time and i still think communsim is for genocide deniers

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