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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 513 points 5 months ago (76 children)

Any moment now, the 'don't vote for Biden' group will be in here telling us not to vote for Harris. And if it isn't Harris, they'll tell us not to vote for whoever it is.

Anything but stop the dictator and his plan to commit genocide against Latinos and queer people.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 129 points 5 months ago (13 children)

Even if Trump wasn't going to do awful things, I can't stand his stupid face or his stupid voice or his stupid stupidity. That's enough to vote for someone who'll beat him.

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[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 83 points 5 months ago (36 children)

I didn't want to believe it but they're already in the comments. We need to be vocal. Kamala is a great candidate.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 150 points 5 months ago (4 children)

'Beating the Republican Fascist agenda' is a great candidate. I don't really care how that is spelled on the ballot.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 114 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 42 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'll vote for virtually anyone the Democrats nominate to stop the genocidal dictator, but my first choice, of course, will always be-

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 44 points 5 months ago

Of course they are. They started when it was just rumored that Biden would drop out.

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[–] dadarobot@lemmy.sdf.org 61 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Most of the biden haters i know on the left are upset about his support for israel. Harris has been much more critical of the genocide. We'll just have to see.

I didnt want to vote for biden, but was still going to vote blue no matter who. Im glad i dont have to vote for genocide anymore.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 47 points 5 months ago

Until Harris fucks up terribly in public and jeopardizes her campaign, I won't be advocating for her replacement. I never said "don't vote Biden." I said "run somebody better." Keeping Trump out of office is more important to me than living in this country and I love where I live. I'm hopeful that Harris can win the trust of the people and prevent my having to relocate (and a bunch of other bad shit).

[–] PythagreousTitties@lemm.ee 44 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm really hoping if Harris still has to be on the ticket that she'll stay VP. It would be nice to have a decent prez option.

But I'll be voting anti trump either way.

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[–] queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

I may be a weirdo, but I was on the "I'd consider not voting for Biden." but I'm currently more interested in Harris. Nowhere near as bad of a track record as Biden had. From being racist, to supporting rapists getting into the Supreme Court, to backing massive removal of constitutional rights.

Harris' record isn't perfect, and while I'm in California, I don't recall any bills she pushed/voted for as Senator that was anything as bad as the USA PATRIOT Act. I don't like her record as our AG at all, but Senator is a different story.

If she picks a good VP pick, I'd be down. I'm wanting maybe Newsom, but that's just he biggest Democrat I know, as he's my Governor.

Edit: I don't know how to make it clear: I live in California. If I voted for a ham sandwich for oresident it would have the same impact as voting for Biden. My state's EC is clear and chosen, and popular vote doesn't decide the president otherwise we'd never have Trump. I was considering going Greens, but I'm looking forward to Harris. Get mad at undecideds in Swing States and Trump supporters, not a registered Democrat in California.

[–] K3zi4@lemmy.world 105 points 5 months ago (7 children)

As a non American I just can't comprehend how any of you even have to think about this.

On one hand, an old man, who, despite his age and stumbling over his words, has ran the country relatively successfully for the last four years.

On the other hand, another old man that was a global embarrassment, cosied up to Putin and Kim, spent most of his time golfing and shitting his pants, stole classified documents and likely sold state secrets, he is a sexual abuser, an actual criminal, clearly has corrupt justices on his side with crazy plans, chummy with epstein and took multiple trips to pedo Island, promoted racism at every opportunity, many of the people connected to him for his first term were imprisoned, refused to accept your democratic process, contributed in instigating a fucking coup attempt, and that's likely not even the half of it...

Like, how the fuck can ANY of you look at that and say "Yeah but Biden stumbles over his words so I'll just throw my vote away/vote for trump..."

I feel like I'm going insane just watching this shit unfold. It is all so bizarre.

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub 47 points 5 months ago

As an American I'm newly flabbergasted by this every damn day

[–] AquaTofana@lemmy.world 46 points 5 months ago

Don't worry, those of us Americans who don't have their heads up their asses are just as baffled as you are and 3 times as embarrassed that Trump is even an option again.

I am in a fucking loop of laughter and tears because I don't even know what to do anymore.

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[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 42 points 5 months ago (14 children)

you were considering not voting for Biden when Trump was the alternative?

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 345 points 5 months ago (11 children)

An aside, I hate that this was posted to twitter before it was posted to Biden's own website or the White House's website first.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 108 points 5 months ago (7 children)

This is why the internet sucks now. Nobody maintains their own websites anymore. These days everybody just posts everything on the same handful of centralized megacorp websites. Social media killed the golden age of the web.

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[–] TechAnon@lemm.ee 298 points 5 months ago (4 children)

WHAT AM I GOING TO DO WITH ALL MY BIDEN HATS, FLAGS, T-SHIRTS, AND STICKERS?!

/Just kidding - not in a cult 😅

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 41 points 5 months ago (12 children)

not in a cult

Sure? You are on Lemmy after all.

/joking. Or am I? 🤔 VSauce music plays

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[–] nl4real@lemmy.world 96 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It's finally over. Now get in someone who can beat Trump.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 61 points 5 months ago (40 children)
[–] Kalothar@lemmy.ca 108 points 5 months ago (10 children)

Senator Mark Kelly, he can do this

He flipped AZ to blue

He is an astronaut, all American, former servicemen

He can get red votes and blue alike

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[–] Bye@lemmy.world 37 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Literally any straight white man center-right democrat born after 1968 would wipe the floor with trump.

And before anyone jumps down my throat, that’s not what I want. I want president Cortez. But presidents are chosen by money and by about 10,000 generically stupid swing voters in Michigan and Pennsylvania.

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[–] ralphio@lemmy.world 88 points 5 months ago (13 children)

Honestly the biggest problem Biden had was that all his funding dried up after the debate.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/18/us/politics/biden-fundraising.html

Regardless of who you think would win in a vacuum you gotta acknowledge this.

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[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 71 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Bernie 2024, even if he dies of a heart attack first day his appointments would change the country for good and I don’t trust any party politicians on Palestine.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 47 points 5 months ago (38 children)

I'm hoping for a Kamala/AOC ticket.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Biden just endorsed Kamala, so that much is likely. The VP will probably be one from a shortlist of 5 or so governors/senators from swing states.

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 59 points 5 months ago (2 children)
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[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 5 months ago (19 children)
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[–] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 41 points 5 months ago (3 children)
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[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 39 points 5 months ago (4 children)

As much as I think that he was too old for the position… JFC. If the Dems don’t nominate Kamala Harris as his replacement, the entire Democratic nomination will be filled with so much infighting that they will lose the faith of their electorate and the next election.

If only more Dems were left-of-centre such that Bernie was a viable option. Unfortunately almost all of them are right-lite.

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