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[–] nl4real@lemmy.world 96 points 3 months ago (3 children)

It's finally over. Now get in someone who can beat Trump.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 61 points 3 months ago (9 children)
[–] Kalothar@lemmy.ca 108 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Senator Mark Kelly, he can do this

He flipped AZ to blue

He is an astronaut, all American, former servicemen

He can get red votes and blue alike

[–] alienzx@feddit.nl 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Isn't senator Kelly the one that created the mutant registration act?

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 months ago

Yea, but who cares about those sub-human mutants.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago

Ok, he is probably the best name anybody has thrown out.

[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Hmm...not bad. Not amazing name recognition, but that could be remedied.

Having Gabby campaign for/with him, especially after the DJT assassination attempt, could be beneficial, too. (Or could look like a disgusting political plot, but that's really all our politics.)

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 6 points 3 months ago

Damn that would be a great pick. I'd like to see AOC but Kelly probably has more broad appeal with all the things you mentioned.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Kelly or Mayor Pete seem like the best options.

Buttigieg and AOC ticket? That would be the youth candidacy. Kelly and Buttigieg or vice versa would be more centrist but probably be the most robust candidacy.

I hate to say it, but in this political climate and with the threat of Trump, the best shot is probably two young-ish white guys.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

This is…not a bad idea!

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 4 points 3 months ago

Actually that's not a bad idea at all

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I highly doubt Kamala will want to pull a sitting Democratic senator away from the 50/50 Senate given the elections coming up.

I think there is a greater chance that she picks one of the governors. My pick is J.B. Pritzker.

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[–] Qkall@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 months ago (4 children)

yeah... i don't think harris is the answer....

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 58 points 3 months ago (11 children)

If Harris is in, she can use the money already donated. Otherwise they have to start from scratch.

So it's almost guaranteed Harris will be in. Who they pick for VP is the question.

[–] PythagreousTitties@lemm.ee 17 points 3 months ago

Can they still keep her as VP and put someone else on as prez?

[–] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I find this so insane. People talk about who gets to keep the money, who has which rich asshole routing for them, which strategy has been successfull in the past, like always setting up the current president for reelection...

We need to focus on who has actually inspiring policies and ideas. We need to focus on these, because that is what the Reps lack. All they offer is "not the Dems" while the policies they propose are actually unpopular with many of their base. And the whole "Not Trump" strategy of Biden just fell apart.

Is there noone in the Democratic party who can actually come up with a coherent vision of the future and inspire people to follow it?

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 5 points 3 months ago

Is there no one in the Democratic party who can actually come up with a coherent vision of the future and inspire people to follow it?

This is why I think Pete Buttigieg should throw his hat in if they do have a primary. He just had a Bill Maher interview that just went viral because he knows how to talk to the common people. I think his visions are inspiring, he’s done a lot of work for his department, and he isn’t afraid to walk across party lines and go on Republican shows to talk about the real problems. He’s smart enough to smash Trump in a debate, calling out all his lies, and even if Trump is too scared to debate him, he has no problem laying out Trump’s lies elsewhere coherently and cognitively.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

On the one hand: "you can't have her she's ours!". On the other, she's out in 26 regardless, and she's pretty good so maybe we can share with the rest of the country.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

No, they don't. The Democratic Party can give the donated money to whoever is the candidate. Not sure where people are getting that.

Edit: After reading up, I am mistaken kind of. If Harris is still the VP candidate, the money could be used. Otherwise a PAC would have to be setup to funnel money to the candidate...maybe. Bloomberg was simply able to transfer his campaign funds directly to the DNC since it was part of his campaign money...even though the vast majority of it was his own money.

[–] mrlavallee@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The money Biden has raised directly however can only go to the people that were on his ticket at the time the donation was made

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's correct, but nearly none of the money is the direct donation stuff - it's almost in PACs which are (due to a legal fiction) entirely independent of the candidate.

[–] mrlavallee@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

There are still more restrictions however on spending on other candidates and they would have to act like any other PAC, only helping via donating/running ads in support of (but importantly not directly by) any other candidate.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The $100 million warchest belongs to the Biden/Harris campaign, not the Democratic Party. They are separate organizations, and Biden/Harris only answers to Biden and Harris.

The DNC has its own funds of course, but nowhere near as much. And DNC funds are supposed to be shared with multiple Democrats, not just the one running for president.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 months ago

And notably even if Biden/Harris were supporting the alternative, they're an outside group. They can spend like a super PAC, but can't pay bills or do direct advertising.

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[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don't particularly like her, then again I detest nearly all politicians. That being said, I'm more motivated to vote, that's for certain. I didn't mind Biden, but it felt like elder abuse lol. He's been better than anyone in my lifetime. Good God, I'd rather have her than Hilary as the first woman in the spot. Biden was just hard to watch and that position needs someone that will have to live with the consequences of the decisions in office. Will be curious to see who else puts their name in. 4 years ago he said he wouldn't run again and he seems to be keeping that promise too. If they were clever, they'd put Biden as VP or as an advisor.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Half of America lost it's mind when Obama was elected, and we're still dealing with the fallout from that lovely dose of racism. There's no way Kamala could win in this country.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 18 points 3 months ago

Obama won. And then won again. Stop pumping up the reactionaries as some unstoppable force. They're a minority and have been on a long term losing streak.

[–] Qkall@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

like all that aside, a lot of folks aren't appreciative of her background as a cop... but yeah that's a cherry to what you already mentioned

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 14 points 3 months ago (4 children)

And a lot of swing voters will probably like that she was a prosecutor, a "law and order" type.

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[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago

still the other half was enough to elect him

She'll have to be. Anybody else would be starting from square one, and that's a luxury we don't have right now.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 10 points 3 months ago

Harris 2024 babyyyyy

[–] nl4real@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This late in the game, it's almost certainly Harris. Probably picks a swing state governor like Whitmer or Shapiro.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

Or Mark Kelly. Regardless, it's probably going to be a white male from a swing state to appeal to as broad of an electorate as possible.

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[–] Bye@lemmy.world 37 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Literally any straight white man center-right democrat born after 1968 would wipe the floor with trump.

And before anyone jumps down my throat, that’s not what I want. I want president Cortez. But presidents are chosen by money and by about 10,000 generically stupid swing voters in Michigan and Pennsylvania.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Voters in Michigan that voted for Whitmer.

[–] Bye@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Fantastic point.

[–] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Im not american but i wholly support AOC4POTUS2028.
Or for a more catchy media bite: "A-O-C for the Presidency"

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