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[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 106 points 5 days ago

people please actually read the article not the headline; this is literally about accessibility improvements for blind and visually impaired people for generating alt text inside of documents and pdfs.

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago

That's one of the things, but it's also adding a dedicated sidebar for AI. That's the sort of thing that should just be an extension, there's absolutely no reason at all why that needs to be something built into the browser.

Developers should be providing alt text themselves, but in cases where they aren't having a local image recognition model running to provide a description isn't terrible as long as it's either 100% local or completely opt-in.

The dedicated sidebar on the other hand feels very much like a cheap attempt to cash in on the AI fad.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 4 points 4 days ago

That’s the sort of thing that should just be an extension

It most likely is on the technical level, just shipped by default and integrated into standard settings instead of the add-on ones. And it's going to be opt-in, so you won't have to go into about:config to disable it. Speaking of: You're looking for extensions.pocket.enabled, it should be false. And before you say "muh diskspace" it's probably like 5k of js and css or such.

[-] cheddar@programming.dev 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

access their preferred AI service from the Firefox sidebar to summarize information, simplify language, or test their knowledge, all without leaving their current web page.

Our initial offering will include ChatGPT, Google Gemini, HuggingChat, and Le Chat Mistral

[-] proti@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago

yeah but AI bad no matter if it would be actually useful for once

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[-] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 127 points 5 days ago

trustworthy AI

Our initial offering will include ChatGPT, Google Gemini, HuggingChat, and Le Chat Mistral

What

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[-] StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 4 days ago

The new CEO of Mozilla, Laura Chambers, has a background working at all sorts of evil companies like AirBnB and PayPal. Its absolutely no surprise that the company immediately dropped plans to diversify in ethical, unique and privacy friendly ways as soon as she joined.

CEOs getting paid primarily in stock means grifters like this will drop their USP for whatever trend makes the line go up, if it is crypto, NFTs, or AI.

[-] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Shes not the new ceo, shes a temporary interim ceo while they find someone better

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 33 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Our initial offering will include ChatGPT, Google Gemini, HuggingChat, and Le Chat Mistral, but we will continue adding AI services that meet our standards for quality and user experience.

Is that the same Mozilla that started the Joint Statement on AI Safety and Openness?

What in living hell do proprietary and predatory AI services even doing here?

Mozilla just offered users to feed into the very abomination they claim to fight.

Also, for all things "AI", local is the only way to go if you ever want to have a chance at privacy.

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[-] Poot@discuss.tchncs.de 65 points 5 days ago

"Trustworthy AI" + Recent aquisiton of an advertising analytics company + a call for people to inform on third party sources of Firefox = Down the enshitification rabbit hole we go.

Any recommendations of a good alternative on android? I'm thinking I'll move to librewolf on desktop but they don't appear to have an android version.

[-] cravl@slrpnk.net 11 points 5 days ago

I use a fork from F-Droid called Fennec. I'm not sure off the top of my head how closely it tracks with upstream feature-wise but I know it strips out all of Mozilla's tracking components and it's always updated within a couple days of the upstream release.

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[-] maynarkh@feddit.nl 9 points 5 days ago

I do like Mull, but I'm also uninformed and I don't use my mobile browser all too much.

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[-] maxinstuff@lemmy.world 58 points 5 days ago

Why does my open source browser need proprietary SaaS products stuffed into it?

Isn't this what extensions are for?

[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Firefox has a tendency to embed optional extensions as impossible to uninstall core features these days, so it would not change much.

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[-] 299792458ms@lemmy.zip 18 points 4 days ago

Not going to lie, AI can be a very powerfull tool but the "we want your browsing experience to be divine, but don't worry we have your back" scares me shitless. Firefox has always had our backs, why do they feel the need to mention it now? Maybe I'm being paranoid but I feel like a browser shoulf just be a browser.

[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Firefox has always had our backs

It's been going in a less friendly direction for a while. Embedding of mandatory useless extensions, aggressive advertising, deals to display more and more content to more users, disregard for user settings on multiple updates, opt-out telemetry, and now telling you that you're using it wrong.

Sure, you can navigate through various settings to disable most of these, and check back on updates for settings that toggles back, or are simply renamed and mysteriously got back to their default, intrusive value. But we should not have to do that.

And that's not even touching the issue with the Mozilla Corporation itself.

Firefox is the alternative browser, but it certainly isn't there to "have your back".

[-] Redex68@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago

Honestly, the worst part of the AI craze is that so many people hear AI now and immediately hate it even though it can really do some amazing stuff, e.g. in medicine. AI as a blanket term just has so much variance, there's a ton of trash and a ton of great stuff.

[-] yukijoou@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 days ago

"AI" today mostly refers to LLMs, and whichever LLM you're using, you'll likely face the same issues (wrong answers creeping in, tending towards mediocrity in its answers, etc.) - those seem to be things you have to live with if you want to use LLMs. if you know you can't deal with it, another rebrand won't help anything

[-] firepenny@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Part of the problem is that all ads anymore want push their version of “AI” in your face and some of these “AI” are nothing new just rebranded.

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[-] dinckelman@lemmy.world 44 points 5 days ago

I wish they spent their time fixing bugs, rather than implementing this bullshit

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[-] squirrelwithnut@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

As long as I can disable it, sure. Knock yourself out.

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 10 points 4 days ago

The way I see AI being implemented into Firefox, regardless of whether it's gonna be opt-in or out in the future is that they need to keep up with the latest browser trends in the future. If they don't, they will definitely lose more of whatever probably small amount of remaining normies who don't use edge or chrome but instead opt for Firefox. They're not tech literate enough to see a conveniently placed ad telling them that xyz browser now uses AI security features and Firefox doesn't and discern the fact that it's a ploy to get them to switch. We need more normies if we really want a chance to keep Firefox more than just treadingn water, and the best way is to offer more random bullshit of the week to keep them from switching to a competitor.

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago

Pretty sure the only thing I wouldn't object to AI being used for in Firefox would be ad blocking. Surely they're going to use this for that right?

...

Right?

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Shit.

[-] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 days ago

Why Mozilla? Why? You were the chosen one... Fuck it, I'm going back to lynx! Tabs? Sure we have tabs in lynx, just run lynx in tmux

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[-] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 days ago

native tab grouping would be a much more desirable feature, to me

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[-] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Anyone have any other good suggestions for Firefox alternatives? Sounds like I may be needing to switch soon.

[-] cyclonic_affinity@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I highly recommend everyone making the switch to LibreWolf. It's a custom version of Firefox that focuses on the things that matter like privacy and security, while cutting out the annoyances that Mozilla loves to add to their browsers.

https://librewolf.net/

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[-] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 days ago

why would you need to switch, did you read the article?

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[-] nick@midwest.social 11 points 5 days ago

No fuckin’ thanks.

[-] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 5 days ago
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