...when he was leased out to work at Hickman's Family Farms
I love how the article opens with this, because leasing people like property is totally cool and fine in America, because old piece paper said it is ok.
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It's a family farm, so it's okay.
We're helping small business owners
* to enrich themselves at the cost of others
Prisoners can be used as slaves. It's right there in the constitution.
Yeah. I know. I'm saying that it's crazy to me (as a non American) that slavery is viewed as normal in 2024, because the US Constitution says it's OK to buy, sell, lease people if they committed a crime.
Oh, I don't disagree at all.
And the fact that they get sent to private companies takes it from merely barbaric to absolutely grotesque.
We can still ban it, it’s just not constitutionally prohibited
and what if they don't do what they want?
A quick Googling suggests bread and water for food, solitary for a month, and showers once a week.
No idea how this backwards-ass hole ever became a superpower.
No idea how this backwards-ass hole ever became a superpower.
Well I’m sure the cheap slave labor helped.
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Slavery never ended. A carveout for slavery is still legal slavery. We haven't ended slavery in America at all, just changed the legal method of obtaining a slave and making it so only corporations get to have slaves.
We're such a fucking disgusting sorry excuse for a country.
(For those "JuSt LeAvE tHeN" I wish I could, but any country worth a damn has strict immigration requirement$ I don't meet...)
i wonder which other countries do the same?
looks like its poland, brazil, rwanda, belarus, vietnam, egypt, myanmar, mongolia, china, mali, zimbabwe, turkmenistan, russia, libya, eritrea, north korea.
Sound like those are also shitty countries that still have legal slavery that needs to end... :/
Kinda like the Imperial measurement system, if you are being compared to Myanmar then perhaps stop?
Weird that you left off France, the UK, Germany, Canada, Japan, and Korea.
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just changed the legal method of obtaining a slave and making it so only corporations get to have slaves.
The Arkansas Governor's mansion was staffed by prison inmates for over a century. A lot of the post-80s privatization has resulted in convicts becoming corporate chattle. But for a long while we had a more traditional fascist take of public sector slave labor.
There's a reason the average black male spends 1/3 of their life in prison in America.
And then has the right to vote taken away when they get out....
This is so obviously bullshit, but I looked it up anyways. The closest source I could find was this page which claims a black male born in 2001 has a 1 in 3 chance of going to prison.
So yea. Don't lie, it discredits your cause.
Lol it's a lyric from dead prez, wouldn't get bent out of shape about it. Literally written in 2000 - I can't even find stats that old 🤷
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It's the new 2/3 compromise.
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But what happens if they are hurt or killed?
What do you guys at the Associated Press think was the point of the drug war?
Oppression, economic disenfranchisement, implicit slavery, oh yeah and racism.
It's not even implicit slavery, the amendment that makes slavery unconstitutional explicitly makes an exception for criminal punishment.
And just coincidentally the US has 25% of the world's prisoners while being only 3% of the world's population
So, business as usual.
As a middle-aged white guy you can take my privilege out of my cold dead hands /s
Challenge accepted
Fun fact: the amendment that outlawed slavery also legalizes slavery.
There is no US without slavery.
Just move it to the third world like the rest of us already for fuck's sake.
Something about changing the past. We’ve got top men working on it though.
The US really wants slavery again.
It never totally went away.
The Thirteenth Amendment (Amendment XIII) to the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime. Source
The last correct take Kanye had.
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Friendly reminder that chattel slavery didn't end in the United States until almost ww2, and ~~some places still illegally enslaved black families continously since the civil war up until the 1980s~~. (EDIT: I thought that I remembered an old AP article online about this from the 1980s about a police raid at a farm compound somewhere in Alabama. However, I cannot find the original source for this claim, so I am retracting it. From what I remember of the story, this family had basically just kept their slaves hidden away on their small plantation during reconstruction, then just kept them hidden away from the rest of society by not allowing them to leave the compound. Someone finally escaped during the 1980s, was discovered, and eventually taken into police custody. This eventually led to the raid on the compound and the AP article that I remember.)
Then obviously prison slave labor is still an ongoing issue.
Do you have any more information about illegal slavery until the 1980s? I'm not doubting it, I've just never heard that and would like to learn more.
I guess not. I thought that I remembered an old AP article online about this from the 1980s about a police raid at a farm compound somewhere in Alabama. However, I cannot find the original source for this claim anywhere! So either all evidence of this event has been scrubbed from the internet, or I have misremembered the event. I consider one of these more likely than the other.
From what I remember of the story, this family had basically just kept their slaves hidden away on their small plantation during reconstruction, then just kept them hidden away from the rest of society by not allowing them to leave the compound. Someone finally escaped during the 1980s, was discovered, and eventually taken into police custody. This eventually led to the raid on the compound and the AP article that I remember.
I remember doing a lot of research into neoslavery right around when this video from Knowing Better and this video from All Gas No Brakes came out. Both videos talked a lot about slavery after the Civil War (The AGNB video was more indirect, but an interviewee in the video name-dropped a lot of stuff that I was ignorant about), which is what piqued my interest. I guess that I must be conflating a couple of different events despite my vivid memory of the article. If anyone else remembers reading the article, or the event occurring (because again, 1980-something is not that long ago), please let me know!
The US want to cut out the whole fake justice system portion that illegally targets poor and minorities, and jump straight to slavery again FTFY
Same thing that happens when other slaves are hurt or killed on the job.
Not a hell of a lot.
If they are killed, they probably die.
Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer.
Slavery is enshrined in the US Constitution so probably nothing
You get another prisoner? Sorry didn't read the article.
Don't think you need to with a question as obvious as that.
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Considering the medical system in America totally fucks everyone, I would assume prisoners would also be fucked.
Hickman’s Family Farms: our workers may not be cage free, but the chickens are.
Can prisoners deny work placements? Like do they get any say in this? I'm guessing there would be some sort of retaliation which is why they accept them, that or there's a promise of a shorter sentance or something.
They can, but performing work is one of the things that is taken into account when determining whether or not a prisoner has had "good behavior", and "good behavior" can get a prisoner's sentence reduced.
So, effectively, they are coerced into accepting work placements.
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