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[-] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 115 points 9 months ago

RIP Unity. First they partnered with Ironsource. Who are the people behind InstallCore it's a wrapper for bundling software installations. It tricks people into installing enough browser toolbars and other bloat to hurt their PCs. Windows Defender and MalwareBytes blocks it. Now Unity does this shit.

[-] Scrof@sopuli.xyz 107 points 9 months ago
[-] PostalDude@links.hackliberty.org 34 points 9 months ago

Darn! Beat me to it! Been using it for 7 years after switching from unity and haven't looked back!

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 106 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The enshittification of the tech industry continues...who's next? Place your bets.

[-] Granixo@feddit.cl 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

As soon as AV2/H.266 becomes standard, i'd say Youtube would be at risk.

Edit: Added AV2 to my comment.

[-] jeremy@lemmy.dexlit.xyz 10 points 9 months ago

How would that make youtube worse?

[-] neshura 19 points 9 months ago

They'll find a way, I'm sure

[-] Granixo@feddit.cl 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'm not saying that AV2/H.266 would make Youtube worse.

I'm implying AV2/H.266 would allow us to migrate to a platform other than Youtube.

Edit: Added AV2 to my comment

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 15 points 9 months ago

Why do we need h.266 for that? (Looking at PeerTube)

[-] Rinox@feddit.it 14 points 9 months ago

Why would that be? If h265 is anything to go by, MPEG will probably charge an arm and a leg for h266, and the entire industry will pivot away from MPEG and move to AV2. I'm not even sure YouTube will ever implement h266

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[-] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Wikipedia incorporates pay-to-win mechanics, lootboxes, microtransactions and cosmetics. There will also be a convoluted crafting system with decaying materials and several incompatible currencies for every purpose imaginable.

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[-] whodoctor11@lemmy.ml 75 points 9 months ago

And that's how Unreal become a monopoly in 3d game development

[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 71 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

What a gift for epic games. Glad I never wasted my time learning Unity.

[-] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 61 points 9 months ago

Yep, hopefully Godot ends up being the real winner, because with as many AAA studios that have started to abandon their own in-house engines in favor of Unreal, it's starting to feel a bit like Epic is going to end up with more than a healthy share of the market.

[-] Angius@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

The cheapest ad campaign for Unreal Engine in history lmao

[-] jayandp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

Or arguably, the most expensive. Just not for Epic.

[-] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 68 points 9 months ago

Goodbye, unity. It's been okayish.

[-] spez_@lemmy.world 65 points 9 months ago

I'm going to install games heaps of times so I can bankrupt any small game companies

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You you really are a jerk Spez.

[-] _Gandalf_the_Black_@feddit.de 25 points 9 months ago

I was shocked until I read the username

[-] wabafee@lemm.ee 20 points 9 months ago

Calm down, Satan.

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

The in game ads already do that these days.

Just try to hit that X, haha, tricked you! Installing.

Any touch of the phone for 30 seconds auto installs...

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[-] daniskarma@lemmy.world 52 points 9 months ago

Why tech companies keep getting worse and worse and worse?

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago
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[-] lechatron@lemmy.today 51 points 9 months ago

Do you know how many times I install and uninstall a game before I even play it? I could probably destroy a small game company on my own with this fee structure, and I'm sure I'm not alone with the constant installing and uninstalling.

[-] green_square@yiffit.net 47 points 9 months ago

Where were you when unity killed itself?

[-] VonReposti@feddit.dk 11 points 9 months ago

On the shitter. That's when I browse the news at least.

[-] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 9 months ago

As if Epic needed any more help completely obliterating Unity in every conceivable way.

[-] Granixo@feddit.cl 44 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The entire Unity userbase:

[-] Dasnap@lemmy.world 43 points 9 months ago

I brought this up in another thread:

They expect Game Pass titles to have their bill footed by Microsoft.

There's kicking the nest, and then there's kicking the fucking queen bee.

[-] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago

I mean what are they going to do with xcloud plays? Is it just 1 install on the remote Xbox or does it count per player, which means it’s an install every single time someone plays?

I imagine a lot of the doomsday stuff people are saying are not going to come to pass (and some will!). But it’s this kind of ambiguity that always leads to this kind of speculation.

[-] Coreidan@lemmy.world 41 points 9 months ago

Must have come from the Reddit play book

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago

Good way to kill your business. Way to go, you greedy jerks.

[-] jayandp@sh.itjust.works 30 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's kinda amazing how Unity shot themselves in the chest with this one. No, I don't mean foot, they are now actively bleeding from the torso.

No Dev or Publisher is going to be okay with this, none. This basically leaves Devs on the hook for unlimited liability. Even with their walk back of "only initial installs" doesn't help. I myself have both a Desktop and a SteamDeck. That's possibly two installs out of the gate from one customer. Then any time I make an upgrade in the future, or heck maybe even switch Proton versions on my Deck, the Dev could be on the hook for more cash. There's zero transparency with how these "installs" are detected or counted, so there is no way to budget or plan for the expenses.

Businesses hate unpredictable fees.

They'll deal with utilities upping rates, because who are you gonna switch to in a monopoly? But if you're just a tool for them, they'll ditch you as soon as they're able and never use you again.

And again, publishers will care about this too, since their whole job is distribution. Any Dev looking to sign with a publisher, even a subscription service like GamePass, will now be asked which engine they're using, and I bet you 9/10 times the Dev will get rejected if they're using Unity now. That puts even more pressure on Devs not to use Unity.

Unity will price gouge their existing customers(Devs), but will ensure that nobody ever buys their product ever again. At this point I doubt their reputation will ever recover even if they can walk this back. The fact that they believe they can unilaterally add enormous fees at the drop of a hat means they've ruined any trust their customers had in them.

Unity: I can charge you any fees I want, any time I want.

[-] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Nevermind desktop games.

The real hit is free mobile games. Paying per install can be crippling when you naturally have low retention rates.

You can accidentally success yourself into debt if you don't have preditary monetization.

I'm building a game ATM that's meant to be fun and fair, monetization is really low. If it shot up as a front page item for some reason that now went from a huge success to a massive stress point as the number of installs would easily put me into hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt to unity overnight.

Who TF wants to take on that kind of risk? Does this not push mobile games into being even MORE preditary?? Since it's now impossible to build a mobile game with Unity, and just release it as something free.

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

preditary

Predatory

I don't mean to be rude, just giving a heads up since it's written there twice with the same spelling

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[-] Surreal@programming.dev 29 points 9 months ago

Finally, the company announced that it’s discontinuing Unity Plus subscriptions starting today to “simplify the number of plans we offer.” It says existing members on that tier will receive “an offer to upgrade to Unity Pro, for one year, at the current Unity Plus price” via email in mid-October.

Well sssshhhiitt

[-] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago

Time for Godot to shine brighter

[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 16 points 9 months ago

Is this a cry for help? Do we need to get them some therapy?

[-] FLX@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

Fuck unity tech, they haven't made a single intelligent decision in 10 years.

The engine was perfectly fine and they ruined ALL OF IT.

I wasted so much fucking time because of them, everything they do is garbage.

Just let them go bankrupcy.

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[-] pikmeir@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

As someone who's been following Unity's development since 2.0, this doesn't surprise me. They've always struck me as a company that doesn't care about developers. And while all companies are trying to make money, there's a difference between "pay for our product because we need money to operate" and "we love Adobe's subscription model and want to outdo them - and we will squeeze you as much as possible." Have a little heart, Unity.

[-] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 10 points 9 months ago

Can't wait to see what damage control mode looks like on this one.

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[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

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(I commented in the wrong thread, but am still getting upvotes...)

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 5 points 9 months ago

Don't worry, Devs. I won't be buying any unity trash ever again.

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