And my IT team pushed this release as a required update, immediately, as soon as it dropped. And now they’ve learned a lesson. Wait a week or two on major point releases.
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From what I understand, 14.4 was also a HUGE security release for active exploits in the wild. It might have been better overall to deal with temporary broken usb functionality than risk a severe vulnerability remaining on their network.
Seperate security from major updates maybe?
What moron decided to bundle both of those updates together?
14.4 wasn't that major of an update, it was mostly the security updates.
Why did it break so many things then?
Because of the security update part of things.
From the article:
The USB hub issue may be related to the USB security prompts that Apple introduced in macOS 13 Ventura
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My company paused the rollout once all these bugs started appearing. They pushed it live before knowing how the GM was being received at scale.
If you have enough people to call them an IT team and they DON'T know this, then they aren't an IT team, just a bunch of people who think they know computers good.
Source: Delayed updates have been policy everywhere I have ever worked since the 90s.
I’ve been in tech for decades, so I know what they’re supposed to do, but my several thousand person company’s IT has decided to roll Mac updates out immediately for some weird reason
That said, we’re in an industry where there is likely legal risk if office machines are not running OS’ with all the latest security patches. But by pushing patches immediately, they also expose the company to technical problems or security vulnerabilities that accidentally appear in the occasional new release.
I think somebody said, but there's the misconception that Apple can never do wrong by people who should know better.
On the other end of the spectrum, my IT department is rolling new laptops for everybody will l with Windows 10. The plan is to upgrade everybody "the day we can no longer have support for 10".
Waiting until the last minute to do something necessary is a corporate tradition along with pushing emergency changes on a Friday afternoon and asking how much the LTS support costs
It's not even waiting for the last moment. They are installing windows 10 on the new machines, that come with W11.
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You would think... but they new before that it was a bad idea. Someone above them said "I don't care, just do it". They also probably said something about metrics.
Fucking metrics
That's why it is wiser to update when .01 .02 release launches.
Apple: just works.
My ass.
Yup. Yesterday my mac turned my external display pink. The monitor was connected directly to the HDMI socket on the M1.
Tell me a more iconic duo than external devices and a panicking mac.
This used to happen to me regularly with a Dell panel. It would turn anything white pink. I found creating a custom colour profile and playing around with it until the whites were white again solved it. Then occasionally it would decide to revert to the default colour profile for no reason.
Stupidly frustrating but I’m passing on the tip incase it helps.
What I meant by "turned pink" is that the display showed only bright pink color and the mac display had a single corrupted line of pixels on it.
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Courage. Magic. We think you gonna love it.
As someone using android/windows in private life and MacOS for work, I can confirm. As long as its Apple, it works. But as soon as you use any third party software or hardware, its completly bugged.
I cannot even agree to that. Like I get that the settings takes minutes to reload after a reboot. And I need to get in there because it always resets my mouse speed to the slowest possible. But I cannot change it because there are no settings for the mouse directly after a fresh boot! It is so absurd.
Using a mac daily for work, no it doesn't. Some built in software features keep fucking up, external device or not. Like the "pause music" button, which stopped working entirely on my mac no matter if you press it on the builtin or external keyboard, the multi desktop which keep fucking up and putting apps on top of other apps that are fullscreen, making them barely usable...
We agree on the external device part though, it can decide to stop working with stuff you used for months for no good reason
All this on an M2 pro that came out a year ago
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To be fair, when are printers not broken?
I haven't had a broken printer in years!
My local library branch is walking distance and has free printing, so I got rid of my printer.
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This update causes my Jetbrains IDE to randomly crash several times a day, it's great. Also my USB hubs wouldn't work this morning until I power cycled everything a few times. What fun!
Ahh. This is why PyCharm is crashing on me all of a sudden.
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But there are more emojis and now it integrates with icloud toilet to store your bowel movement stats in the Health app.
Who the fuck even needs usb hubs?
On a macbook? You can't plug a normal keyboard in without a USB hub because there's no USB-A port
You already have one keyboard, don’t need another one. What? The butterfly keys are broken? Shouldn’t have broken them I guess 🤷♂️
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Literally anyone with an apple product because they don't include enough ports to plug in basic shit like a mouse or thumb drive? There's an entire product lines of hubs that are compact and flush with the laptop that exists solely because of apple
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Definitely skipping that update then. Thanks for the warning
Looks like there are two separate issues addressed in the articles. 1. You have to approve USB devices that are plugged into your Mac. I believe the fix is to unplug USB devices and plug them back in. 2. Microsoft Defender is crashing CUPS unless you manually give it full disk access. Either give it full disk access or remove Microsoft Defender from your Mac.
ETA: I just checked and I’m ok 14.4. No problems printing but it did ask me to confirm that I trusted every new USB device that I plug in.
Microsoft Defender exists for Mac? What?
My guess is it is for some corporate security policy that requires the same endpoint management. I had no idea it existed either before I read the thread on Apple forums.
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Microsoft Defender
Excuse me?
Somehow it's managed to randomly toggle the DPI setting on my mouse.
It's a Sensei RAW, there is no software switch, it's all done in the mouse.
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Might be intentional, recently Apple went the direction of silently dropping features in updates.
Literally everyone does this now and it's so fucking frustrating.
Vendor: Here's our latest update, it's mandatory, if you don't implement it within 30 days your license will invalidate.
IT Department: *Does the update* Great well now two core tools we need to do daily work aren't there anymore.
Vendor: Yeah, we removed them for your convenience, well being, user experience, and personal happiness.
IT Department: But we need them otherwise the software is useless to us.
Vendor: Oh in that case, our new product Premium Plus^^tm does those things but isn't bundled with your tier of product so please cut us a check for the $5k a month difference and you'll be good to go!
And if I punched him, I'd be the one to go to jail.
And if I punched him, l'd be the one to go to jail.
Let me know time and place, I'll witness it was in self defense
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And this is why I'm still on Monterey... Being in audio production, it's rare that updating your OS (barring security updates) improves your stability.
What's the oldest version of MacOS that I could reinstall on Apple silicon?
That depends on your Mac. The older the Mac, the older the version. On most M1 Macs, you can go back even to Big Sur, on M2 it's usually Monterey and so on. It might be different with the Pro/Max/Ultra variants though.
More important question for me:
what is the oldest MacOS with xcode support (and therefore oldest I can run brew on)?
I keep meaning to figure this out.
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