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[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 126 points 5 months ago (3 children)

This is the same kind of language employed by far right assholes everywhere.

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[–] Hooverx@lemm.ee 86 points 5 months ago (5 children)

The absolute disregard for Palestinian lives.

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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 78 points 5 months ago (2 children)

So I guess genocide is an American value, and if you oppose genocide then you're unamerican.

Just another data point indicating that I have never actually been American, and I should have no loyalty to it.

[–] kemsat@lemmy.world 37 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As an indigenous person, duh.

You just have to look at US history to know that we're pro genocide. Hell, we were doing it just a few years ago to asylum seekers.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I served in the Army and I think this country is a festering shithole of privilege and corruption. I don't stand for the stupid national anthem, ever.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 7 points 5 months ago

I stand, but I sing The Internationale instead.

[–] ralphio@lemmy.world 62 points 5 months ago (4 children)

How convenient for dem leadership that anyone who disagrees with them is actually a foreign agent.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 57 points 5 months ago (5 children)

So there's articles now about her calling them both Chinese and Russian agents for protesting. Nice job, grandma.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago

Then she doubles back and said she's actually calling for a cease fire too...

But what she's really asking for is a complete surrender of Gaza.

Like when idiots say the invasion of Ukraine needs to end, so Ukraine needs to surrender.

If your call for a cease fire is the victim to surrender to the aggressor, that's not a cease fire, it's you being on the bad guys side.

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 48 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 43 points 5 months ago

100% against the genocide in Palestine and think our representatives should be doing everything they can to stop supporting it but this video is clearly edited. Pelosi's mouth is moving basically the whole video yet you can hear absolutely nothing from her except the very end when she gets into the suv. You can very faintly hear the "go back to China" line. However if you look at her mouth it's not matching up with it at all. Someone clearly dubbed audio over video to make it sound like something it wasn't.

[–] outer_spec@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 5 months ago (2 children)

So she’s not just an asshole, but bad at geography too. Got it.

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[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago (6 children)

So literally fake news is OK on here?

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago

Please support your claim that this news is fake.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago

Can you cite it being fake news?

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[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 23 points 5 months ago

If she stays in much longer, she'll be the Democrats' Mitch McTurdle.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How do these guys fuck up sitters every day. I'm not a yank but you fucks export all your rhetoric and issues anyway so can you get your shit together please.

This old bag of bones needs to fuck off, get out and vote for Christ's sake.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago

I'm voting twice this year

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 20 points 5 months ago
[–] SmokeInFog@midwest.social 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Is there any indication that this desperate ploy to reframe any criticism of Israel's genocide in Gaza or recognition of innocent Palestinians' basic humanity and rights as purely foreign propaganda is working at all? It's absolutely craven

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 18 points 5 months ago (8 children)

We need to pass a constitutional amendment that sets the maximum age to hold public office (including judges) to 67 years old. You can do whatever you want past 67, but you can't hold public office.

Read the room, Nancy!

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[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 months ago

I guess liberals cannot be upset that people against the genocide didn't vote for them. They are all Chinese according to them.

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 14 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I'm a bit confused by this:

“For [the pro-Palestinian protesters] to call for a cease-fire is Mr. Putin’s message, Mr. Putin’s message. Make no mistake, this is directly connected to what he would like to see.

Let's just put aside the fact that asking for a ceasefire for most people is a humanitarian request. You don't need to have picked a side to accept that the ordinary people need some kind of help getting to safety (or relative safety). I'm not commenting on that here though.

It may be that I'm missing something obvious, in which case fine. But, how does a cease-fire in Gaza benefit Putin? I would say that any instability elsewhere in the world (Gaza, Houthi rebels, the Iran Pakistan thing the other week) work entirely in his favour. While the west (and some of the rest of the world) need to move to stabilise problems aside from the war in Ukraine, they have less time, resources to spend checking up on his activities in Ukraine. The media time is split away from what's happening over there and of course, military budget is redirected away from arms for Ukraine, to operations in these other regions and arms for Israel.

I must be missing something, right?

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

But, how does a cease-fire in Gaza benefit Putin?

It doesn't. A ceasefire in Gaza means the US wouldn't need to send ammunitions to Israel to massacre Palestinians, freeing more supplies to be sent to Ukraine to fight Russia.

The conflict continuing and spreading across the region and getting the US stuck in the Middle East distracting it from Ukraine though, does help Putin. So, this leaves us with a logical conclusion, Pelosi is either a Russian-asset or just relishes in genociding Palestinians.

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

However, Israel is buying ammunition (at least with an IOU), whereas Ukraine is just receiving charity. From that perspective, it's easy to see why politicians are more willing to support Israel than Ukraine.

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[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 5 months ago

This is so misleading. The headline plus thumbnail makes it look like she got up on a stage and said that , but the article just embeds a shoddy phone video where you can barely understand her.

I'm not defending Pelosi but can we at least have some journalistic standards? This isn't worldnews, and it's barely USA news.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Do people really expect that there comes something meaningfully out of such a old brain under that kind of pressure? Have you never talked to such old people? They need way more time to think compared to young people. Americans should stop voting such old people into politics, it is just not efficient. But of course, we have the same problem here..

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago

I love how the mask just keeps falling off. US politicians keep exposing themselves as racist scumbags.

[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago

Just a crazy old lady ranting on the street.

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

We really need to vote her out this round, San Francisco deserves better than this

[–] acceptable_pumpkin@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

She needs to be sitting in a rocking chair somewhere knitting sweaters, not involved in any form of government beyond a local bingo committee. It’s a disgrace to have her in politics.

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